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China tells US to put its house in order
The Financial Times ^ | November 22 2004 | James Kynge

Posted on 11/23/2004 10:15:33 AM PST by CDB

“That is not sustainable,” he added. “The appreciation of the RMB will not solve the problems of unemployment in the US because the cost of labour in China is only three per cent that of US labour. They should give up textiles, shoe-making and even agriculture probably."


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: china; trade
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To: oceanview
wow, I can't get cuban cigars, haven't been able to for 40 years. My life is over, my human rights have been violated, my freedoms destroyed. how can I go on.

Typical childish nonsense. If I robbed you of $10, your life would go on, but your rights would have been violated and a portion of your freedom destroyed. You think like a liberal.

81 posted on 11/26/2004 10:57:34 PM PST by Protagoras ("Please tell me why the first prohibition needed a constitutional amendment but the second didn't.")
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To: Last Dakotan
Then why does China continue (at great cost) to peg their currency to the dollar?

Many developing counties do the same thing to achieve the appearance of stability and to gain the confidence of investors.

82 posted on 11/26/2004 11:02:15 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: CDB

I say to solve our problems we ought to slap a 20% tariff on ALL imported goods, like Pres. Washington advised in his day. I'm sure the Chinese wouldn't mind having that tacked on to all the junk they sell to Walmart Then our balance of trade deficit wouldn't be so ridiculous and we might be able to employ more of our own people in manufacturing again. By the way, I DON'T want Chinese communists in charge of my food supply, thank you.


83 posted on 11/26/2004 11:03:55 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Moonman62
Many developing counties do the same thing to achieve the appearance of stability and to gain the confidence of investors.

Like current Japan for instance?

No, this is done by Asian merchantilists for one reason only, to gain a trade advantage. China additionally seeks to undermine our defense industrial base.

84 posted on 11/27/2004 6:36:12 AM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Moonman62

so, when does it end? china has gone beyond the "confidence" stage, they are sucking up all investment from western companies relocating there. and its not just toys, and xmas tree lights, and cheap consumer electronics and appliances anymore. its semiconductors, machine tools, major automobile subassemblies, aircraft subassemblies, etc.

its gone way past an "appearance of stability and investor confidence". china is engaging in a trade war against the US, and the peg is how they are doing it. and like a bunch of dopes, our political leaders handed them the keys to the kingdom with all these free trade, GATT, WTO, and MFN agreements - without first demanding the peg be removed.


85 posted on 11/27/2004 4:07:45 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Protagoras

you also can't buy a $9 DVD player assembled by slave labor in africa, you have to pay $39 for the chinese ones. were you "robbed" of $30? your rights violated? a portion of your freedom destroyed?


86 posted on 11/27/2004 4:09:41 PM PST by oceanview
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To: kittymyrib

we can't use tariffs against them, we gave away our rights to do so when we entered into GATT, WTO, MFN and the like.


87 posted on 11/27/2004 4:10:43 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Last Dakotan

don't kid yourself, its american companies who want this too - and have paid alot to buy it from our political class.


88 posted on 11/27/2004 4:11:54 PM PST by oceanview
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To: Ruth A.
" The world would starve without the US agriculture. Perhaps we should just take all our jobs back."

It is more complex than you might think. I read that the US actually imported corn from China in 2003. We should not need their corn, but the Markets have caused things to be quite competitive, and so corn growers move into other fields (no pun intended).

On the other hand, China imports from the US a lot of chicken feet. It is some form of a delicacy over there. Life is strange

89 posted on 11/27/2004 4:21:08 PM PST by Radix (I swear, I only left the Tag Line alone for a moment, and just look at what has happened to it.)
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To: oceanview
its gone way past an "appearance of stability and investor confidence". china is engaging in a trade war against the US, and the peg is how they are doing it.

I agree, but coming off the peg isn't so simple for them. They've still got a banking system that they need to clean up. They'd probably like reassurances that we won't try to squash them if they go through a temporary financial crisis, and it would probably be in our best interest to give them that reassurance.

90 posted on 11/27/2004 5:09:36 PM PST by Moonman62 (Federal Creed: If it moves tax it. If it keeps moving regulate it. If it stops moving subsidize it.)
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To: Radix
It is more complex than you might think. I read that the US actually imported corn from China in 2003.

One irony is that while the US is a massive exporter of cheese around the globe, there is a chronic problem of the dumping of "American" cheese in the US by other countries. We export unimaginable quantities of cheese, hundreds of different varieties, and the only kind that gets dumped in this country by foreign countries is "American cheese". So other than a few niche European imports, every cheese you get in the US is made in the US, except for "American cheese", which is made in some second-rate country with a dairy program by the ton and dumped here for pennies.

Incidentally, the US has taken aggressive action against the cheese dumping at the WTO, getting permission for steep tariffs on the American variety.

91 posted on 11/27/2004 5:17:51 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: hosepipe

LOL


92 posted on 11/27/2004 5:19:02 PM PST by cyborg ( Hy verkwik my siel; Hy lei my in die spore van geregtigheid, om sy Naam ontwil.)
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To: Last Dakotan
We're having to relocate from Colorado to Wisconsin right now due to Advanced Energy moving all of their manufacturing and production lines to China. (My husband is a prototype/precision machinist)

Thank you commie SOBs and thanks to the American Traitors who'd rather line their pockets by standing side by side with Chinese dictators!
93 posted on 11/27/2004 5:30:37 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: LibertyRocks
Hey, chin up!

1.You'll love Wisconsin. I did when I lived there and still return often.

2.This country has a massive foreign debt that can only be repaid in manufactured goods, thus people like your husband who are skilled in making things will be properly valued in the future.

94 posted on 11/27/2004 8:48:40 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan
Thanks, you made me smile!

Don't get me wrong - I'm very much looking forward to moving to Wisconsin. Being blue-collar in Colorado makes for a very rough life. Very low wages here in comparison to the Mid-west, and the Cost of Living is almost the same now (Denver vs. Chicago for example).

All of my husband's family is from Central Wisconsin (Thorp & Medford). It's ironic cause his parent's moved to the suburbs of Chicago to get out of the small-town and off the dairy farms. Now 40 years later we're moving up there to get back to a small town atmosphere.

As far as your second comment I agree, and I only hope the future isn't far in coming along...
95 posted on 11/27/2004 9:02:00 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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To: oceanview

you need to take your medication.


96 posted on 11/27/2004 10:05:13 PM PST by Protagoras ("Please tell me why the first prohibition needed a constitutional amendment but the second didn't.")
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