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1 posted on 11/22/2004 9:29:35 AM PST by Pitiricus
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muslum = terrorists = murder = leave


2 posted on 11/22/2004 9:30:15 AM PST by Gibtx (pajamahadeen call to arms.....)
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To: Pitiricus
To repudiate the death sentence for blasphemy would be the same as abandoning the Islamic order in traditional society in favor of a Western-style religion of personal conscience.

Seeing as Holland isn't yet a Caliphate, they have no authority to impose such a sentence. I don't see how repudiating an illegal act poses any such moral dilemma. (That is, of course, assuming that the local Islamic "leaders" view the murder of a non-Muslim as an inherently immoral act.)

3 posted on 11/22/2004 9:35:31 AM PST by Redcloak ("FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS! FOUR MORE BEERS!" -Teresa Heinz Kerry)
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To: Pitiricus

It's really simple. They must decide to either tolerate the free speech enjoyed in most western countries and the laws of said countries or give up their party stores, gas stations, and coney islands and go back to where they can fully practice their faith.


4 posted on 11/22/2004 9:35:54 AM PST by fourmation599
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To: Pitiricus; All
Guess what? I'm past caring:

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5 posted on 11/22/2004 9:36:34 AM PST by backhoe
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"The ground will continue to erode beneath the feet of moderate Muslims, the constituency upon whom the White House placed its best hopes."

***

If you can't denounce Van Gogh's murder or 9/11, then you are not a moderate Muslim.


6 posted on 11/22/2004 9:40:47 AM PST by Zhangliqun (What are intellectuals for but to complexify the obvious?)
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To: Pitiricus

The best way for the West to eliminate the "hypocricy" would be to get medieval on this freaks, since that was the last time Islam was anything more than an angry cult.


7 posted on 11/22/2004 9:43:05 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (© 2004, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Pitiricus
click:

Islam's Hatred of the Clitoris

9 posted on 11/22/2004 9:56:23 AM PST by ppaul
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Islam Faces a New Era
Civilization magazine (via the Wayback Machine) ^ | 1999 | Munawar A. Anees
Posted on 11/21/2004 11:51:23 AM PST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1285400/posts


10 posted on 11/22/2004 10:06:25 AM PST by SunkenCiv ("All I have seen teaches me trust the Creator for all I have not seen." -- Emerson)
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To: Pitiricus

The jist of the article is that muslims intend to continue to kill their critics, don't think they should have to stop, and don't think westerners should criticize them for doing what muslims gotta do.

What they are really doing, then, is demanding that western states exclude them from their territory. Western states should take them at their word.


11 posted on 11/22/2004 10:07:28 AM PST by marron
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To: Pitiricus

A very astute writer, thanks for posting.


13 posted on 11/22/2004 10:24:00 AM PST by Cruising Speed
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"He ('the god of Mohammed') displays his power like an Oriental potentate who rules by violence, not by acting according to necessity, not by authorizing the enactment of the law, but rather in his freedom to act arbitrarily"

The amazing thing about this supposed god of the moslems is that he requires men to fight in order to provide him protection.

The New York State Supreme Court realized the problem of islam coming in to the U.S. back in 1892 when they declared islam to NOT be under the purview of the First Ammentment protection.

Of course, that was an age of a higher degree of spiritual awareness than today.

14 posted on 11/22/2004 10:38:14 AM PST by nightdriver
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Here is how one turban turner viewed this article. Islamos truly are a couple cards short a full deck.

I feel sorry when I read Spengler's mutterings [Muslim anguish, Western condescension, Jun 7]. His articles further reinforce his total lack of knowledge of Islam ... People in the Muslim world protested the desecration of the Holy Koran with civil protest, albeit with injuries resulting from police action and sporadic violence. [The protests were] probably more civil than the soccer violence experienced in Europe or World Series victories in the US or Montreal. (I would love to see the reaction of Harry Potter fans after the flushing of The Prisoner of Azkaban.)

Perhaps the West expected Muslims to react by burning or flushing the Bible or the Torah. Muslims have more respect for holy books than people in the West. To Muslims, the desecration of the Koran is as torturous as watching their child's limbs being cut off in front of them, but they did not react by cutting off the limbs of others. "An eye for an eye" is reserved for Jews. [This] goes against the claims by many in the West about Muslims being inherently violent and uncivil.

So why would Christians in the West not care too much about desecrating a holy book? Simple: because they don't care about or respect their own faith or holy books to begin with. Christianity and Judaism are both old, worn-out, outdated faiths.

That is why their so-called followers, especially in the West, don't really care [about] the essence of the teachings. The church-[going]population is quite old and shrinking, while newer strategies such as rock music and bingo (wasn't gambling detested by Jesus?) are being used to lure or keep the faithful. Most of the guys love the church rock 'n' roll because half of the girls come dressed (for the party) with little left for the imagination other than the oversized cross on their chest (neck).

Regarding Judaism, of which the major populace resides in the so-called State of Israel, the youngsters are no better than the predominantly Christian, belly-buttoned teenyboppers found in Europe or the US. How many go regularly to the synagogue? Last time I was in Haifa, the weekend clubbing scene was no different from New York or Paris. But that's okay, because a loving father dwells beyond the clouds and since Jesus has washed their sins with his blood, there is no need to worry, they have a blank check (looks like the so-called Islamic terrorists have stolen a few blank checks to cause mayhem). In contrast, the majority of Muslims live in relative poverty, compared [with] the West and Israel. As I mentioned in a prior letter, the Palestinian boy comes home from school and goes out to lob a few rocks at the occupier while the Israeli child is licking ice cream in an air-conditioned mall.

Poverty or less materialism is a blessing and is a saving grace for the Muslim community at large. Poverty has taught them of their weakness and the need to continue to ask for help from Allah, their creator, in order to succeed. This brings me to Spengler's gross misrepresentation of the Muslim call to prayer asking the faithful to "come to prayer, come to success" as opposed to "come to church, come to rock 'n' roll [and] bingo". Do you now see how success of the Muslim ummah lies in their close ties to prayer and the mosque? Success in uplifting and maintenance of the moral and spiritual values of the Muslim ummah as opposed to competing with the West in vice.

The West is ... encouraging the deformation of Islam rather than reformation. The West needs to look in their own spiritual back yard before attempting to meddle in other faiths. The Koran is a code book of human reformation; no superpower can cause reformation. Only God gives his messengers and Prophets mandates for reformation of a people; no superpower or leader thereof has been given a mandate by God. To succeed, the Muslim ummah needs to follow the promised reformer of the time and enhance their animal and moral states towards a spiritual state so they can endure humiliation for the sake of Allah and ignore Western condescension. Only then will they see Allah's thin patience with the humiliators of his book and people as he showed to his people in the past.
Mahmood Ahmad (Jun 8, '05)


20 posted on 06/08/2005 6:03:13 AM PDT by robowombat
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