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To: Jotmo
I grew up in north Central WI and the area was a fairly crime free area until the Hmongs got moved in

They are heavily involved in gangs drugs and prostitution

These Hmong gangs operate out of Mpls...through EauClaire Wausau and Green Bay and throughout the Fox Valley with more in LaCrosse...they are connected to the Hmong community in Sacramento Calif and their General has a large ranch in Montana...

I don't know how this was paid for..as Hmongs were poor primitive folks that raised opium and didn't clear much cash for their efforts...the war lords seem to do quite well though..imo


They might have been some folks allies in Vietnam but imo but are not anymore

They are the liberals affirmative action pets...they have never obeyed our game laws and are above the law....enforcement has taken a very liberal approach

Not long ago in Wausau the Hmongs were busted for growing opium and claimed it was their right to do so...when they get arrested they clam up and claim 'no English' and then the mandatory interpreter has to be brought in...The chief of police made a statement that no Hmongs were arrested because 'there were too many of them to figure out which ones did it"

They trespass on private lands and threaten folks that own them...if the cops are called it is rare if ever any Hmongs go to jail..

In Wausau WI not long after a large group was airlifted into Wausau..Hmongs walked right downtown with the 22 rifles and would hunt right in the city parks...they pretty much cleaned out all the ducks and squirrels until the city fathers and Hmong leaders came to a deal...again no Hmongs went to jail

They are welfare cheats and scream bloody murder through their liberal proxies in social services when they don't get their ways...

Their gangs in the schools intimidate white kids who are not allowed to fight back...

They are a pestilence on N Central Wi ..the quality of life has been greatly reduced by their presence

We had a Hmong cop who was convicted of rape and got off because it 'was apart of his heritage too rape' ..something about being man enough to take a girl away from her family and get away with it..proved his worthiness..

The libs defended him...we also had a Hmong bus driver who raped one of the girls on his bus
and he also got away with it..

The local cops say they were told not to arrest Hmongs unless they were committing a felony

I could on and on about crimes they commit some of which I have witnessed that no Hmongs were arrested for...or ones that were arrested were let go and sent on their way to Minneapolis

I personally have seen Hmongs on County forest land killing and eating deer in the middle of summer...I reported it to DNR...nothing was done...it is almost as though they have carte blanche to commit crimes...and if push comes to shove it will a white guy arrested for turning a Hmong in before any Hmong get arrested

They are pushy and demanding and well organized...we pretty much imported an Army from Loas..which is still intact..

They may have been our allies once upon a time ..but their descendants are anything but our allies

I am not surprised that is was a Hmong that did this...they like other criminal minorities and predators have been protected for so long many have pretty hostile attitudes

I also witnessed them riot on the west side of Wausau one summer night...they tried to take over a grocery store and were pelting white folks with rocks hit and elderly man with a rock in the head as he was putting groceries in his car...

When some of the local white kids fought back the cops came and hauled off a few of the white kids but no Hmong kids were arrested..

This is just sickening to me...as they have really ruined the quality of life in the areas they are taking over thanks to the libs the protect them

And this is all thanks to DAVE OBEY Democrat Central Wisconsin Congresscritter

IMO and experience

182 posted on 11/21/2004 6:14:31 PM PST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)
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To: joesnuffy
We've had our problems with some gangs also. Earlier this year, 3 or 4 of them drove by a house on my block and tried to shoot another one over some girl. In town. BANG....BANGBANGBANGBANG! One shot went through the wall of a neighbor's house into her sofa where she was laying. Thankfully, they were caught and are getting convicted. But it's maddening as h*ll.

I don't understand how Obey keeps getting voted in.

184 posted on 11/21/2004 6:22:59 PM PST by Ladysmith (November 2, 2004: Taking America BACK!!!)
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To: joesnuffy
As a Minneapolis Resident, This event does not surprise me one iota. The Hmong the far left imported as a voting block are vile, base and barely above savages. They sell their children. They bully and threaten those that live near them(Yeah, I've witnessed it) This guy fully thought he was ENTITLED to hunt wherever the the hell he wanted to...Private land means nothing to him. Thank you Paul W.....You were a real humanitarian,
189 posted on 11/21/2004 6:32:29 PM PST by Explodo
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To: joesnuffy

Finally, someone with a more 'fair and balanced' report on the Hmong.

Here is an earlier thread, and many there had similar experiences: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1164576/posts


192 posted on 11/21/2004 6:34:21 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Liberalism has metastasized into a dangerous neurosis which threatens the nation's security)
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To: joesnuffy; Ladysmith; Explodo; TexKat; spunkets; Balding_Eagle

Sounds like your problem is not the Hmong per se, but rather the Liberal Establishment that has turned this ethnic group (or more likely, their progeny) into a bunch of lawless anarchists.

My point is that you would likely get the same result with any identifiable group of people if you were to put that group into a social environment where they--and only they--are not subject to society's rules. Promoting anarchy only breeds contempt for the lawful.

I'm not excusing the Hmong's criminal behavior. In fact, the obvious solution here is to zealously prosecute the criminal elements within their community. But their lawlessness is a foreseeable result of the Liberal policies you've described. So until the Liberal policies that created this situation are terminated, then any other course of action will merely be treating the symptoms, but not curing the disease.


199 posted on 11/21/2004 6:49:27 PM PST by SpyGuy (Liberalism is slow societal suicide.)
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To: joesnuffy

Thanks!


252 posted on 11/21/2004 10:06:32 PM PST by dennisw (G_D: Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: joesnuffy

joesnuffy, thanks for your insightful, informational post on the Hmongs. It rings all too true with what I've seen in your neck of the woods in WI.


264 posted on 11/21/2004 11:11:23 PM PST by WRhine (When America ceases to make manufactured goods, what do we trade with the rest of the world?)
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To: joesnuffy

Terrible times Joe...terrible.


341 posted on 11/22/2004 6:13:38 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: joesnuffy

Joe, I well understand what you are saying. It's not a "racial" issue, it's a cultural one. If Serbians or Swiss folk were doing this, there would be the same reaction, but it isn't a part of their culture.

Everything you said hits home and I should add a few things. As an angler in a small community, I am well aware of their disproportionate poaching activities. Bear poaching, cougar poaching, deer poaching and fish poaching. Look in the hunting guide directory and you'll see many Hmong names as guides. About 1/4th.

I don't want to discriminate, but this spring in one fishing area, there were 11 able-bodied young Hmong men who fished every single day, all day (according to the ranger) and into the night. They drove new cars. I wondered how they made a living. Fact is, Hmongs get busted all the time for poaching and selling game fish and animals, sometimes for "medicinal" purposes and so forth. I met a few and they seemed decent enough, but when 11 grown men spend every waking hour on my fishing spot for 3 months straight and drive brand new cars, I get a little suspicious.

In Southern California, the cops broke up a ring of cat smugglers. They were taking people's cats off the street in LA, skinning them, and selling teddy bears with cat fur at the San Diego Swap Meet. In San Francisco, they had to ban catching a certain type of mussel because of Hmong poaching, and around here, our ponds are nearly barren because they come at night with illegal nets and clean out the fish.

Environmentalists and animal rights activists are still silent.
Why?


419 posted on 11/23/2004 6:35:56 PM PST by followerofchrist
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To: joesnuffy




To: Jotmo
I grew up in north Central WI and the area was a fairly crime free area until the Hmongs got moved in

They are heavily involved in gangs drugs and prostitution

These Hmong gangs operate out of Mpls...through EauClaire Wausau and Green Bay and throughout the Fox Valley with more in LaCrosse...they are connected to the Hmong community in Sacramento Calif and their General has a large ranch in Montana...

I don't know how this was paid for..as Hmongs were poor primitive folks that raised opium and didn't clear much cash for their efforts...the war lords seem to do quite well though..imo


They might have been some folks allies in Vietnam but imo but are not anymore

They are the liberals affirmative action pets...they have never obeyed our game laws and are above the law....enforcement has taken a very liberal approach

Not long ago in Wausau the Hmongs were busted for growing opium and claimed it was their right to do so...when they get arrested they clam up and claim 'no English' and then the mandatory interpreter has to be brought in...The chief of police made a statement that no Hmongs were arrested because 'there were too many of them to figure out which ones did it"

They trespass on private lands and threaten folks that own them...if the cops are called it is rare if ever any Hmongs go to jail..

In Wausau WI not long after a large group was airlifted into Wausau..Hmongs walked right downtown with the 22 rifles and would hunt right in the city parks...they pretty much cleaned out all the ducks and squirrels until the city fathers and Hmong leaders came to a deal...again no Hmongs went to jail

They are welfare cheats and scream bloody murder through their liberal proxies in social services when they don't get their ways...

Their gangs in the schools intimidate white kids who are not allowed to fight back...

They are a pestilence on N Central Wi ..the quality of life has been greatly reduced by their presence

We had a Hmong cop who was convicted of rape and got off because it 'was apart of his heritage too rape' ..something about being man enough to take a girl away from her family and get away with it..proved his worthiness..

The libs defended him...we also had a Hmong bus driver who raped one of the girls on his bus
and he also got away with it..

The local cops say they were told not to arrest Hmongs unless they were committing a felony

I could on and on about crimes they commit some of which I have witnessed that no Hmongs were arrested for...or ones that were arrested were let go and sent on their way to Minneapolis

I personally have seen Hmongs on County forest land killing and eating deer in the middle of summer...I reported it to DNR...nothing was done...it is almost as though they have carte blanche to commit crimes...and if push comes to shove it will a white guy arrested for turning a Hmong in before any Hmong get arrested

They are pushy and demanding and well organized...we pretty much imported an Army from Loas..which is still intact..

They may have been our allies once upon a time ..but their descendants are anything but our allies

I am not surprised that is was a Hmong that did this...they like other criminal minorities and predators have been protected for so long many have pretty hostile attitudes
I also witnessed them riot on the west side of Wausau one summer night...they tried to take over a grocery store and were pelting white folks with rocks hit and elderly man with a rock in the head as he was putting groceries in his car...

When some of the local white kids fought back the cops came and hauled off a few of the white kids but no Hmong kids were arrested..

This is just sickening to me...as they have really ruined the quality of life in the areas they are taking over thanks to the libs the protect them

And this is all thanks to DAVE OBEY Democrat Central Wisconsin Congresscritter

IMO and experience


182 posted on 11/21/2004 9:14:31 PM EST by joesnuffy ("The merit of our Constitution was, not that it promotes democracy, but checks it." Horatio Seymour)

thanks, JoeSnuffy, for your report on what is really going on which will never be in the mainstream media. bumping this.


437 posted on 11/24/2004 9:04:54 AM PST by millefleur (Bush has no mandate to give away America to Mexico)
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