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WORLD MAG.COM ^ | MARVIN OLASKY

Posted on 11/19/2004 8:46:04 PM PST by CHARLITE

CULTURE: Same-sex marriage? Euthanasia? Child's play issues in the avant-garde philosophy of Peter Singer, the "most influential" philosopher alive.

Parental warning: This article refers to infanticide and some abnormal sexual activities.

Don't expect Peter Singer to be quoted heavily on the issue that roiled the Nov. 2 election, same-sex marriage. That for him is intellectual child's play, already logically decided, and it's time to move on to polyamory. While politicians debate the definition of marriage between two people, Mr. Singer argues that any kind of "fully consensual" sexual behavior involving two people or 200 is ethically fine.

For example, when I asked him last month about necrophilia (what if two people make an agreement that whoever lives longest can have sexual relations with the corpse of the person who dies first?), he said, "There's no moral problem with that." Concerning bestiality (should people have sex with animals, seen as willing participants?), he responded, "I would ask, 'What's holding you back from a more fulfilling relationship?' [but] it's not wrong inherently in a moral sense."

(Excerpt) Read more at worldmag.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: abortion; euthanasia; liberal; necrophilia; ondemand; petersinger; princeton; professor; sexualpractice; university
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Not very much blows my mind, but this guy's ideas definitely do.
1 posted on 11/19/2004 8:46:04 PM PST by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

The guy has always been a crank.


2 posted on 11/19/2004 8:48:30 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: CHARLITE

It is not a surprise, once you open up all these institutions and moral boundaries to arbitrary definitions then this is the inevitable end result. The only reason this sounds odd is because we haven't been properly exposed to these ideas yet (give it 10 years).


3 posted on 11/19/2004 8:49:28 PM PST by Ksnavely
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To: CHARLITE

It is really time that we take out the trash like these "people".


4 posted on 11/19/2004 8:55:42 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: CHARLITE

There used to be a link available to an adult site where Singer actually advocates adding pork to chicken - if you get my drift. Bestiality is another of his pet topics - if you get some more of my drift.

Think Mr. Kurtz from Conrad's 'Heart of Darkness' and make the setting an adult bookstore/abortion clinic and you'll just about peg Singer's thoughts on most any topic.

Singer is a maggot.


5 posted on 11/19/2004 8:59:35 PM PST by WorkingClassFilth (From Ku Klux Klan to the modern era of the Koo Kleft Klan...the true RAT legacy.)
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To: CzarNicky

He's Australian.


6 posted on 11/19/2004 9:00:21 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: CHARLITE

BTTT


7 posted on 11/19/2004 9:02:38 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: CHARLITE
The joke goes:
I'm not opposed to same-sex marriage. After all, it's not compulsory,
yet.

At least we once thought it was a joke...

8 posted on 11/19/2004 9:04:21 PM PST by FredZarguna (Free markets. Free Speech. Free Minds. But no Free Lunch.)
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To: durasell

Doesn't matter what this creature is he and those who think like him should be cleansed from western society.


9 posted on 11/19/2004 9:07:35 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: CzarNicky

Again, he's Australian. So your comment approaches the redundant.


10 posted on 11/19/2004 9:09:09 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell

are you saying Austrailia is not part of western society? Are you from DU?


11 posted on 11/19/2004 9:10:26 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: CzarNicky

It was a joke. About six people outside of Yale read/study Singer. He doesn't matter.


12 posted on 11/19/2004 9:11:41 PM PST by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: durasell
It was a joke. About six people outside of Yale read/study Singer. He doesn't matter.

OK, but dump on the Kiwi's next time. The Ozzies are our blood brothers.

13 posted on 11/19/2004 9:17:11 PM PST by FredZarguna (Free markets. Free Speech. Free Minds. But no Free Lunch.)
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To: durasell
There are more people who think like him than you might think. Especially in Western civilization's cradle. The sooner these poisonous purveyors of perversity are expunged from civilization the better off we will all be.
14 posted on 11/19/2004 9:17:44 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Ksnavely
It is not a surprise, once you open up all these institutions and moral boundaries to arbitrary definitions then this is the inevitable end result. The only reason this sounds odd is because we haven't been properly exposed to these ideas yet (give it 10 years).

Good point. Singer's sin is that he follows post-modernism to its logical conclusion. Once you accept the premises of post-modernism, his conclusions follow inexorably. The other post-modernists are just too squeamish to go all the way . . . at least this week.

15 posted on 11/19/2004 9:20:02 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: CHARLITE

Consensuality, The Watchword of Mr. Singer. Mr. Singer is Correct, it is up to us how we choose to live. We may do whatever we like, whenever we like and to whomever we like. Mr. Singer says that we can live like this and place limitations on how what we find acceptable. True !! But can Mr. Singer assure us that there is no consequence to be paid for our actions -- after our own death!? NO! and Neither can we.

Mr. Singer needs to go back to his Grandmother's period, study her and her time, her faith and most importantly her traumatic loss of her husband and the experience of the concentration camp. I believe that his Grandmother, good women that she certainly was suffered greatly.

There were many who came to grips with their faith in GOD, some stayed true others did not. Now because of her loss of faith generations of young people are being influenced by this so called "PHILOSOPHER"? He's only a PHILOSOPHER because people say that he is. He wrote some books, that's a good thing, he can write and express himself. He may be an escapee from a Mental Instution.

There is nothing to Debate, but there is a Decesion to be made: It's our decesion, do you buy this Bull $hit or not?
I DON"T !!

PS: Let's not pay him to teach our children and refuse him Tenure. See how much of a PHILOSOPHER he is! He'll be down by the abandoned Railroad tracks spewing his Bovine Scarptology into the Sewer where he and it belongs.




16 posted on 11/19/2004 9:25:41 PM PST by 26lemoncharlie (Defending America)
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To: CHARLITE; little jeremiah
Instead, the worth of a life varies according to its rationality and self-consciousness, with no essential divide between animals and humans.

Satan's child NE1? Peter Singer IS the Dembocratic party...and why George Bush won.

jeremiah, here's one for your absolute truth ping list, the religion of "moral relativism" needs to find the Separation of Church and State in our universities. Singer must be enemy #1.

17 posted on 11/19/2004 9:34:05 PM PST by Clint N. Suhks
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To: CHARLITE

In post-modern philosophy, the term "influential" is usually synonomous with "clinically insane."


18 posted on 11/19/2004 9:36:37 PM PST by mike182d
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To: Lindykim; DirtyHarryY2K; Siamese Princess; Ed Current; Grampa Dave; Luircin

Moral Absolutes Ping - Peter Singer is the poster boy for why moral absolutes are necessary. I read only the excerpt (need to get virus/spyware protection before I go anywhere on the web), but I have read numerous other articles about him. (If anyone wants to copy more of the article and it's allowed, please go ahead.)

He is a perfect example of what happens when the individual mind and its desires or fantasies are the only arbiter of right and wrong.

It is so vile that he is a professor of "ethics". It would similar to Hitler being a teacher of compassion, BJ Clinton of self-abnegation, Kerry a teacher of truth.

Let me know if anyone wants on/off this brand new pinglist!


19 posted on 11/19/2004 9:53:08 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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To: durasell

Except that he's a professor, IOW, Princeton University teacher. I assume he has classes and teaches college students.


20 posted on 11/19/2004 9:55:20 PM PST by little jeremiah (Moral absolutes are what make humans human.)
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