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Ohio: Lawyers documenting voting problems say they'll challenge results
AP ^ | 11/19

Posted on 11/19/2004 5:23:35 PM PST by ambrose

Posted on Fri, Nov. 19, 2004

Lawyers documenting voting problems say they'll challenge results

ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS

Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Lawyers who have been documenting voting day problems in Ohio say they'll challenge the results of the presidential election as soon as the vote is official.

The lawyers say documented cases of long lines, a shortage of machines and a pattern of problems in predominantly black neighborhoods are enough evidence to bring such a challenge.

"The objective is to get to the truth," said Cliff Arnebeck, a lawyer who said he'll represent voters who cast ballots Nov. 2. Arnebeck said the effort is bipartisan.

"What's critically important, whether it's President Bush or Sen. Kerry, whoever's been actually elected, is to know you won by an honest election," he said. "So it's in the interest of both sides as American citizens to know the truth and to have this answered."

Ohio Republican Party chairman Bob Bennett said it was a joke that the effort was being billed as bipartisan.

"This is nothing but an absurd attempt by a handful of radical front groups to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the Bush presidency. The election is over, the Democrats have conceded and the outcome will not change," Bennett said in a statement.

"This is an egregious waste of time and taxpayer money. It's time to move on."

More than 200 people in Columbus voiced their complaints Nov. 13 about voting problems on Election Day, some accusing the state of voter suppression. Many were Kerry supporters.

A similar hearing was scheduled Friday in Cleveland.

The Columbus hearing was organized by Robert Fitrakis, a lawyer and political science professor at Columbus State Community College, who is also involved in filing the challenge.

"The sworn statements that we've received should give everyone cause to go forward in terms of this inquiry," Fitrakis said.

Ohio Secretary of State Kenneth Blackwell will certify the election results by Dec. 6, spokesman Carlo LoParo said Friday.

A ruling in favor of the challenge could lead to a recount or even having the results set aside, although Arnebeck hinted that such an event was unlikely.

A statewide recount of the presidential vote is already inevitable because a pair of third-party candidates said they have collected enough money to pay for it.

Libertarian Michael Badnarik and the Green Party's David Cobb said Monday they raised more than $150,000 in four days, mostly in small contributions. Ohio law requires payment of $10 per precinct for a recount, or $113,600 statewide.


TOPICS: Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: fitrakis
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1 posted on 11/19/2004 5:23:35 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose

Jerk lawyers


2 posted on 11/19/2004 5:25:02 PM PST by pointsal
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To: ambrose

That tells me the one thing I need to know: Bush won.


3 posted on 11/19/2004 5:26:28 PM PST by alancarp (When does it cease to be "Freedom of the Press" and become outright SEDITION?)
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To: ambrose
Between Ohio and Osama, John Kerry couldn't buy a break. It had nothing to do with John Kerry, his ideals, a Communist agenda for America, surrender or Americans themselves. Self-delusion is a dangerous thing. Is Ta-RAY-za in the Betty Ford Clinic yet?
4 posted on 11/19/2004 5:27:25 PM PST by America1stParty (AmericaFirstAlliance@usa.com)
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To: ambrose
I treat lawyers with the same civility and respect that I do telemarketers, with one exception: I inform lawyers that they're within arm's reach.


5 posted on 11/19/2004 5:27:56 PM PST by Viking2002 (Taglines? Vikings don't need no steenkin' taglines..............)
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To: ambrose
They can sue all they want. They lost and all their law suits will not change that fact. I think it just makes them look like sore losers to the rest of the country. Remember the Wellstone memorial? These actions have consequences.
6 posted on 11/19/2004 5:28:05 PM PST by luv2ski
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To: ambrose

Are they going to bring all the provisional ballots that were screwed up to the voters' homes to "fix" them as they did in Washington state? Voting laws mean absolutely nothing if that stands. What a SORRY bunch of cheaters the Dems are!


7 posted on 11/19/2004 5:28:53 PM PST by kittymyrib
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To: ambrose

what is the certification date for the slate of electors from Ohio that goes to DC?


8 posted on 11/19/2004 5:29:05 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

I believe 12/12 is the Safe Harbor deadline.


9 posted on 11/19/2004 5:33:23 PM PST by ambrose
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To: ambrose
More than 200 people in Columbus voiced their complaints Nov. 13 about voting problems on Election Day, some accusing the state of voter suppression. Many were Kerry supporters.

AP saying "many were Kerry supporters" means they know that 90%+ were dems in a pre-planned, coordinated effort to help push a close election to Kerry.
10 posted on 11/19/2004 5:38:42 PM PST by aynrandfreak (If 9/11 didn't change you, you're a bad human being)
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To: ambrose
The Columbus hearing was organized by Robert Fitrakis, a lawyer and political science professor at Columbus State Community College, who is also involved in filing the challenge.

This clown's name rings a bell, possibly from '00.

11 posted on 11/19/2004 5:39:58 PM PST by dighton
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To: ambrose

This is such a surprise, isn't it?


12 posted on 11/19/2004 5:43:05 PM PST by truthkeeper (Yeah, I have a 1998 signup date. So?)
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To: ambrose

Oh no, not long lines. We need a do over!


13 posted on 11/19/2004 6:01:55 PM PST by Always Right
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To: Always Right

No, just a court order re-opening polls in Democrat counties so all those "disenfranchised" voters can vote again.


14 posted on 11/19/2004 6:04:38 PM PST by ambrose
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To: Always Right

waaa waaaaa waaaaa


15 posted on 11/19/2004 6:06:07 PM PST by hophead
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To: ambrose

Once the results are certified does this make it official that the slate of Bush electors have been elected? If so, show's over I think. :)


16 posted on 11/19/2004 6:27:33 PM PST by TNCMAXQ
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To: ambrose

Wonder if they're tied to the guy in Columbus who was paid with 'dope' to register voters and who filled in assumed names such as Mary Poppins?....How DUMB was HE?


17 posted on 11/19/2004 7:11:07 PM PST by ZOTnot (Nov 3: 'I WILL NOT gloat'; 'I WILL NOT gloat'; 'I WILL NOT gloat': [4 MORE YEARS!])
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To: ambrose

Wonder what page this came from in their 66-page handbook "How To Steal An Election". Something about "even if there isn't evidence of fraud/disenfranchisement - just go ahead and make it up"? They are such losers!


18 posted on 11/19/2004 7:17:23 PM PST by LibSnubber (liberal democrats are domestic terrorists)
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Wonder what page this came from in their 66-page handbook "How To Steal An Election". Something about "even if there isn't evidence of fraud/disenfranchisement - just go ahead and make it up"? They are such losers!

Remember this jewel?

Puff Daddy (or P. Diddy or Pisspot or whatever name he's using this week):I wuz disenfranchised in 2000.
O'Reilly: Were you stopped from voting?
Puffy: Well,no...

19 posted on 11/19/2004 7:25:41 PM PST by Morgan's Raider
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To: dighton

Fitrakis is a beyond liberal. He just likes to stir the pot.
Cliff Arnebeck, who was mentioned in the article, was a Democrat opponent of Rep. Deborah Pryce a few years back.


20 posted on 11/19/2004 7:26:44 PM PST by Columbus Dawg (Buckeye Country is Bush Country)
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