Posted on 11/17/2004 11:46:30 PM PST by kattracks
IS Oliver Stone's $150 million epic "Alexander" too gay for mainstream audiences? Stone, who previously stirred controversy with "JFK" and "Natural Born Killers," is on the hot seat again with his biopic about the bisexual Macedonian emperor, played by Colin Farrell, which opens next Wednesday.As Alexander the Great, Farrell speaks softly and sports a blond pageboy and mini-toga, looking a bit like something out of Queer Eye for the Macedonian Guy.
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"Alexander lived in a more honest time," Stone told Playboy magazine.
"We go into his bisexuality. It may offend some people, but sexuality in those days was a different thing. Pre-Christian morality. Young boys were with boys when they wanted to be."
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Village Voice columnist Michael Musto, who has long monitored homosexual behavior in Hollywood films, says they tend to shy away from showing the physical aspects of gay love, especially when major stars are involved.
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In a historical first, the words "honest" and "Oliver Stone" appear in the same sentance.
I think I'll punt on seeing the grossly miscast Colin Farrell as a silly blond Alexander gayboy.
>It was said ... that Alexander was never defeated, except by
>Hephaistion's thighs
Nevertheless, the Greeks were conquered by the Romans. Let's not idolize a conquered people.
A friend of mine works in the industry and when I asked him who he liked working with he gave me many names of folks who are very pleasant and creative to work with; I asked him who was rotten to work with and he said only one name. Guess who? He said Stone was so nasty, ignorant and credit-hogging, that he would under no circumstances work with him again.
Leave it to Stone to screw up a movie about Alexander the Great. I was planning on seeing the movie, but I don't think I will now.
The thing is, is that the Greek mind set, was the seed corn for Western civilization. Their peculiar tolerance for man boy sex has not proven to be a template so far, but their overall tolerance for open catholic (small c)sexuality in general, certainly has come into its own. Without the Greeks, we would literally not exist as we are.
I always knew that Tories were into buggery. ;-)
I had no idea Oliver was that old. He appears to absolutely know this for a fact.
I think you are confusing Tories as being co-extensive with public school types (public schools in Britian being what are private schools in the States). Confusing isn't it?
From the mention of the character Bagoas, it sounds like Stone based his movie on Mary Renault's excellent and thoughtful novel, THE PERSIAN BOY. Shame if the movie really is a stinker. I hate it when someone takes a great book and makes a rotten movie from it.
>The thing is, is that the Greek mind set, was the seed corn
>for Western civilization...Without the Greeks, we would
>literally not exist as we are.
Actually, it is plausible that it was the Greeks who borrowed from the Hebrew scriptures known widely as the Old Testament, which is the Word of God.
From http://christian-thinktank.com/baduseot.html:
4. Aristobulus, arguing that the famous philosophers were actually dependent on Moses(!), advances a rather strange story: "how were Homer and Plato able to gain enlightenment from Moses' Hebrew text? He counters (12.1) with the thesis of an early Greek translation--before the version sponsored by Demetrius of Phalerum, before even 'the Persian conquest' (341 or 525 bce)" [NT:JMD:151] Aristobulus (c. 170bc) actually refers to Prov 8.22f, probably in translation [so Hengel, NT:JH01:163].
Please see http://www.yfiles.com/y3nf.html for more evidence for the Bible being the Word of God.
"Alexander lived in a more honest time, Stone told Playboy magazine. We go into his bisexuality. It may offend some people, but sexuality in those days was a different thing. Pre-Christian morality. Young boys were with boys when they wanted to be."
....and such wonderful, liberal societies no longer exist for WHAT reasons....?
You could not pay me to see anything with Oliver Stone's name on it. I would just assume it is full of distortion and half-truths.
I understand that the editing process ruined the movie. It seems that we now have a young man, corrupted by greed, attempts to save his father's chariot company, then embarks on a foreign crusade, becomes disillusioned, gets wounded by a "magic" arrow in a triangulation conspiracy, joins a band, and drinks himself to death at a young age.
You forgot the sobriety clinic/comback tour/best-of album part.
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