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Ohio finds possible double votes, counts
AP ^ | 11/17

Posted on 11/17/2004 4:48:00 PM PST by ambrose

Ohio finds possible double votes, counts

11/17/2004, 6:22 p.m. ET

By JAY COHEN The Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Election officials in one Ohio county found that about 2,600 ballots were double-counted, and two other counties have discovered possible cases of people voting twice in the presidential election.

Prosecutors were trying to determine Wednesday whether charges should be filed against a couple in Madison County accused of voting twice. In addition, Summit County election workers investigated possible double votes found under 18 names.

In the other case, Sandusky County election officials discovered that about 2,600 ballots from nine precincts were counted twice, likely because of worker error, elections director Barb Tuckerman said.

Tuckerman believes the votes were counted twice when they were mistakenly placed alongside a pile of uncounted ballots. The room where the ballots were being fed into optical-scan machines on election night was so crowded that ballots had to be placed on the floor, Tuckerman said.

"It was totally hectic," she said.

The problem was discovered when Tuckerman found that one precinct showed 131 percent of registered voters had cast ballots.

President Bush won the election by taking Ohio with 136,000 votes more than Democrat John Kerry, according to the unofficial tally.

The couple who voted twice in Madison County cast absentee ballots in October, then voted in person on Election Day, county elections director Gloria Herrel said. The couple said election workers told them their absentee votes were lost, prosecutor Steve Pronai said.

In Summit county, typically the votes were made by absentee ballot or in person, and then a second vote was cast with a provisional ballot in another precinct, elections director Bryan Williams said.

Under Ohio law, people who vote twice could be charged with election fraud, falsification or illegal voting, according the Secretary of State's Office. The maximum penalty for the most severe charge is 18 months in prison.

Double votes could have affected the result of a local schools income tax request that failed by one vote in Madison County.


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To: ambrose

Ohio voter fraud you won't hear about in the MSM. Buddy of mine, who lives east of Columbus but still in Franklin county (which went for Kerry), said a number of his neighbors in a predominantly Rep area went to vote and discovered "they'd already voted". Appears a number of Rats went in and impersonated likely Republican voters, only to vote, its assumed, for Kerry.


21 posted on 11/17/2004 5:08:15 PM PST by Rep-for-real
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To: GreenHornet
"Obsolete Media".

woks for me!Or even Obnoxious Media.

22 posted on 11/17/2004 5:08:30 PM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: ambrose
The couple said election workers told them their absentee votes were lost, prosecutor Steve Pronai said.

what a crock!

23 posted on 11/17/2004 5:10:52 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: PhiKapMom
that is the home of the RAT fraud in Ohio and where votes have been bought going back to Kennedy/Nixon where the Dems came into the State to tell them how to win it for Kennedy through fraud.

Yeah, business as usual for the Dims. Although in 1960, they didn't need Ohio. Joe Sr. had already bought WVA and Illinois for his son, via the mob.

24 posted on 11/17/2004 5:11:12 PM PST by LisaMalia (John Kerry will never step foot in the state of Ohio again....thank goodness!)
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To: ambrose
Prosecutors were trying to determine Wednesday whether charges should be filed against a couple in Madison County accused of voting twice.

What's to consider? Would they prosecute if this couple forceably restrained two other voters, thus preventing them from casting their ballots?

Absolutely, they would. By voting twice, this couple attempted to "disenfranchise" two other voters.

25 posted on 11/17/2004 5:13:10 PM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: demnomo

Remember back when Gary Condit had his problems and the media went out of its way to avoid saying he was a Democrat? There was some infobabe, probably Katie Couric but I'm not 100% sure, who actually started referring to Condit as a "conservative" congressman from California!

With that in mind, I always assume that if an MSM doesn't mention the party affiliation of a wrongdoer in a political story, it's a safe bet they are a Rat.


26 posted on 11/17/2004 5:13:29 PM PST by Sam The Eagle
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To: ambrose

My wife voted absentee and when I went in there was a hand written note next to her name on the rolls saying her ballot had been received. "They told me the absentee ballots weren't received" should not happen and sounds lame. But, then again we enjoy the luxury of living in a mostly Republican Ohio town and the election procedures (such as comparing signatures) seemed to be strictly followed.


27 posted on 11/17/2004 5:15:10 PM PST by katana
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To: pissant

These two voters in Madison County impacted the result of a local school levy.

http://www.dispatch.com/news-story.php?story=dispatch/2004/11/17/20041117-A1-02.html&chck=t

Another problem? Monday’s official election count had the London City School’s request for an income tax defeated by a single vote out of 6,337 cast. So the Frances’ double dipping — if they voted no — might have cost the struggling district $2.2 million annually.

It will be interesting to see what happens here. Madison County is probably the smallest in central Ohio on population. It is a solid Republican county.


28 posted on 11/17/2004 5:17:27 PM PST by Columbus Dawg (Buckeye Country is Bush Country)
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To: GreenHornet

"Instead of the terms 'Mainstream Media' or 'Old Media,' maybe we should start referring to them by a more accurate term: 'Obsolete Media.'"

Lately, I've been referring to them as the AAM (Anti-American Media).


29 posted on 11/17/2004 5:18:48 PM PST by Cyclopean Squid (The 80s belonged to the Gipper, the Aughts belong to Dubya!)
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To: ambrose

Why dont they tell us who is doing this ''double voting'' cheating I call it! We have a right to know. Who is keeping this quiet?


30 posted on 11/17/2004 5:27:17 PM PST by Bush gal in LA (Armed with what? SPITBALLS? Zell Miller)
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To: ambrose
"...one precinct had 131%..."

Wow! Philadelphia will be checking in with them before the next election for some lessons.

31 posted on 11/17/2004 5:42:29 PM PST by penowa
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To: LisaMalia

Ohio was their back-up. Union and mob were everyplace up north -- I grew up in Ohio but in the SW part of the State in a total Republican county.


32 posted on 11/17/2004 5:45:31 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Thanks Oklahomans for giving Pres Bush the win in all our counties!)
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To: ambrose

Why is this Ohio vote count taking so long?


33 posted on 11/17/2004 6:01:53 PM PST by djpg
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To: djpg
Why is this Ohio vote count taking so long?

Because it's the only state where the Dems can claim fraud. No other state was so close.

34 posted on 11/17/2004 7:17:12 PM PST by speekinout
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To: speekinout

so close? plenty of other states were closer. the reason this is going on in Ohio is because it holds the 20 EVs Kerry would need to win. contesting Iowa means nothing to them.


35 posted on 11/17/2004 7:20:20 PM PST by oceanview
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To: oceanview

You're right. I meant that no other states were close enough for the Dems. to win.


36 posted on 11/17/2004 7:58:38 PM PST by speekinout
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