Posted on 11/17/2004 1:55:47 PM PST by neverdem
I love GOA. I have found my gun lobby home with them.
Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!
I think the gun issue is sufficiently dead after this election. The federal government will no longer try to have any control over any weapons (except those at the far extremes - such as nuclear).
I am one who does not personally believe free gun ownership is good for society - but also know that the Second Amendment protects that free gun ownership. As long as that Amendment is there - there should be no infringement.
I'm a Life Member of the NRA and have been making contributions to GOA for more than a year now.
God, Guns and Guts make America great!
Jack.
Would you care to back up your feeling with some facts as to WHY you feel that way?
Somehow, I think that the right to own machine guns does not rate highly in my interpretation of 2nd amendment rights. I mean, aren't blowtorches a firearm, too?
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OMG, now you've done it.
Me too. They were the only ones who sent me a postcard on a pro-gun local judge. Now THAT's grass roots!
In the meantime, the NRA backed incumbent anti-gun Democrats over Pubbie pro-gun challengers here in Nevada.
Before attempting to think again, go read the text of the Second Amendment ten times.
Then try a re-interpretation.
If your thinking parts are working correctly, you will come to the same conclusion as many constitutional scholars, including the notoriously liberal Lawrence Tribe, namely that the Second Amendment absolutely bans the government from limiting the right of the citizen to posses any weapon that has a military use.
A strict interpretation of the Second Amendment would protect the right to own fully-automatic weapons and grenade launchers, but not a target pistol, long barrel shotgun or lever-action carbine.
The purpose of the Second Amendment is to ensure that citizens have access to, and the absolute right to own, carry and use, such weapons as would be necessary to overthrow a government gone out of control.
The gun issue will never be dead until anti-gun lunatic left and their sycophants the media are all dead!
No Guns ~ No Rights!
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Dems who vote in accordance with the Second Amendment, especially if they are incumbents, will get the NRA endorsement over pubbies with dubious records, IIRC. To which race are you referring?
Including nuclear weapons?
I didn't write it. If you don't like it, amend the Constitution.
I have seen no data that claims that gun ownership is good for society. Hunting aside, violent crimes in countries without gun ownership is much lower. And the crap about "defending against the government" - that, to me, is just paranoid delusions.
Its a moot point - we have the Second Amendment here in the US. Therefore unfetterred access to all types of firearms should be allowed - I just personally see no need for it (unless someone can accurately make the case that we need to engage in armed revolution). However, gun control laws should not be enacted under our current Constitution. We are on the same side - just I don't think that gun ownership is some unalienable right that comes from God - sorry.
I don't like it - but I do agree with you that that is the way it is.
However, I thought one of the underlying currents of the Bill of Rights is that, at least in theory, they were rights afforded all of man. Therefore, expanding out on that - everyone in the world should be able to have nukes.
In the concrete, the U.S. Constitution only directly protects the rights of its citizens and through some fairly recent activist judges, residents of this country, both legal and illegal.
It doesn't necessarily protect the rights of citizens of other countries, and certainly doesn't protect the rights of the governments of other countries, if governments can be said to have any rights at all.
But I'll bite. Let's say that the 2nd does protect the rights of every person on earth to have nukes. The Constitution also guarantees a republic form of government.
Let's start overthrowing any government which it's a republican government, ok?
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