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To: Puppage

I have seen no data that claims that gun ownership is good for society. Hunting aside, violent crimes in countries without gun ownership is much lower. And the crap about "defending against the government" - that, to me, is just paranoid delusions.

Its a moot point - we have the Second Amendment here in the US. Therefore unfetterred access to all types of firearms should be allowed - I just personally see no need for it (unless someone can accurately make the case that we need to engage in armed revolution). However, gun control laws should not be enacted under our current Constitution. We are on the same side - just I don't think that gun ownership is some unalienable right that comes from God - sorry.


18 posted on 11/17/2004 6:20:03 PM PST by graf008
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To: graf008
Consider that a complete and total armed revolution isn't necessary.

Consider that shooting just a few of the worst domestic enemies of the Constitution would probably be sufficient.

Now, without the ability to defeat their helicopters, armored cars and body armor, how do you expect the concerned citizenry to accomplish that?

The answer is in the 2nd Amendment.

Like life insurance, I'd rather have it and not need it, than need it and not have it.

22 posted on 11/17/2004 6:33:52 PM PST by Knitebane
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To: graf008
I have seen no data that claims that gun ownership is good for society

How about the fact that in almost every city with strict gun control has a much higher murder rate? THAT is good for society

Hunting aside, violent crimes in countries without gun ownership is much lower

That's liberal hogwash....look at Africa & Russia. You need to look at facts, not spew what the media incorrectly tells you.

I just personally see no need for it

When someone breaks into your home to kill you and/or your loved ones....then you come tell me if you have a need for it. Oh, wait.....call the police. After all they're the ones with the guns. They'll get there just in time to tape off the murder scene & photograph the lifeless bodies.

23 posted on 11/17/2004 6:36:14 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: graf008
Hunting aside, violent crimes in countries without gun ownership is much lower.

Ever heard of Sudan and Rwanda?

91 posted on 11/18/2004 5:56:46 PM PST by DuncanWaring (...and Freedom tastes of Reality)
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