Posted on 11/17/2004 12:50:28 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo
Edited on 11/17/2004 1:06:30 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]
Report from Sankei (Japanese) newspaper (conservative) coming in today (per link).
Said that a number of hand made circulars have been circulating widely around North Korea (Pyongyang, Nampo, Chonjin, Sinuiju), etc. The flyers are by an underground anti-Kim Jong-il group active in North Korea.
Sankei says they support the defector Hwang Jang Yop, who is now in South Korea.
There are several flyers which counter the common DPRK Party myths and deifications about Kim Jong-il, showing Kim as a spoiled aristocrat rather that a man of the people, with the Russian nickname "Yura" who did not even grow up nor was born in North Korea. Driving wedges between Kim and the starving people, commenting on the rich food he eats while people starve. Saying the "Chuche" Ideology of the North is a big farce which merely enslaves the Korean people. Another underground flyer (again hand written and many copies run off) that is making the rounds in North Korea says "Kim Jong-il killed his father Kim il-Sung".
Sankei reports the North Korean Secret Police is mobilizing in an attempt to find out who is doing this. They have re-instituted/re-fortified a civilian registration system in Pyongyang to track citizens with an eye toward cracking down on this type of subversion. The flyers also contain detailed personal information on Kim Jong-il that only those in select positions would know. Accordingly, north Korean defectors theorize that these flyers are gaining some cooperation from some people in positions of power in the NK military or Party (anti-Kim elements emerging?).
Copies of these flyers have been spotted (or made it out to) China and picked up by sources there.
(Developing)
Looks like the CIA is busy in North Korea...
His pictures are down only in some areas, and the ones who saw it were only a few foreign embassy types in P'yang. It is not throughout the countryside or elsewher at this point. Further, the announcers on DPRK TV are still wearing the KJI lapel pins and he is still referred to as living in the news reports. International telecommunications are up, and no strange military movements to report. Pyongyang is calm. If it were a coup and he was dead, they have pulled off a masterpiece of a quite action. I personally would say that buzzard has at least one or two years left at least. But which one of us really knows for SURE?
I presume that the red dot in Japan marks the location of Tokyo. The red dot in North Korea is their missile base, correct?
Kim Sr. died in 1994, not 1997.
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No.
I'm hedging on China having convinced Kim if Bush won re-election, he'd best pick up his marbles and go home before he loses them.
sorry, meant after the three year traditional Chosun mouring period when Kim was elevated to the supreme posts in 1997. correct
Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice!
EEEEE!!! C'mon, people! Big Kim croaked in '94!!! Doesn't anyone but me remember???
three lower red dots Tokyo, Okinawa and Guam respectively, upper red dot is DPRK missile launch site. correcto
Start a revolution..........
Yes. But of course, Kim Il Sung died in 1994. Kim Jong il assumed total control of posts officially in 1997.
post 67 for clarification
Kim Jong-il Orders Removal of His Portraits: Source:
http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/Engnews/20041117/300200000020041117175345E4.html
Care to make a bet that those originated in China?
Communists believe in tradition?
I knew nothing about a three year mourning period. I just remember in july 1994 Old Kim died and the local daily newspaper interviewed some Korean War veterans. Also the news noted that the "Great Leader" would now be replaced by the "Dear Leader." Gotta love those "anti-fascist" government titles!!!
Heh heh heh. Would it not be AWESOME if the entire Axis of Evil was gone by the end of Bush II's administration??
That was one of the theories, talked about earlier today on FR. That it (taking signs down) was self-ordered, on threat by China that he would go the way of Mao if he didn't. Interesting to see China's movements in this regard. Again, the Bush re election is the big mover in all of this. Changed the whole scenario for Kim.
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