**ANTI-KIM JONG-IL FLYERS STARTING TO APPEAR AROUND N.KOREA: SECRET POLICE CRACKING DOWN**

Sankei Shimbun in Japanese (Tokyo) ^ | 18 November 2004 | AmericanInTokyo

[DouglasKC]

Looks like the CIA is busy in North Korea...

[AmericanInTokyo]

His pictures are down only in some areas, and the ones who saw it were only a few foreign embassy types in P'yang. It is not throughout the countryside or elsewher at this point. Further, the announcers on DPRK TV are still wearing the KJI lapel pins and he is still referred to as living in the news reports. International telecommunications are up, and no strange military movements to report. Pyongyang is calm. If it were a coup and he was dead, they have pulled off a masterpiece of a quite action. I personally would say that buzzard has at least one or two years left at least. But which one of us really knows for SURE?

[Chemist_Geek]

On the map in your post, what are the two red dots at six o'clock and 1300 km, and about five o'clock and 3000 km?

I presume that the red dot in Japan marks the location of Tokyo. The red dot in North Korea is their missile base, correct?

[Zionist Conspirator]

Kim Sr. died in 1994, not 1997.

[wtc911]

Let's go in and help them finish the job, shall we?

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No.

[azhenfud]

I'm hedging on China having convinced Kim if Bush won re-election, he'd best pick up his marbles and go home before he loses them.

[AmericanInTokyo]

sorry, meant after the three year traditional Chosun mouring period when Kim was elevated to the supreme posts in 1997. correct

[Unam Sanctam]

Curiouser and curiouser, said Alice!

[Zionist Conspirator]

After a few beers, in Seoul, with the right people, you will get humorous stories about how younger Kim got in a terrible shouting match with his father, in 1997, that the Old Man croaked on the spot. Kim felt very dispondent afterwards. One thing is sure, Kim lost something like 50 pounds. He was very gaunt and sick looking at that funeral for the Old Man.

EEEEE!!! C'mon, people! Big Kim croaked in '94!!! Doesn't anyone but me remember???

[Sthitch]

If you ever get the opportunity to see "Children of the Secret State" that runs from time to time on the Discovery Times channel, do so. At one time this sort of documentary would have gotten play on one of the big 3 networks. How North Korea treats its children is the most disturbing thing I have ever watched.

[eagle11]

Sounds like the N Korean samizdat is gaining momentum! Great news!

[AmericanInTokyo]

three lower red dots Tokyo, Okinawa and Guam respectively, upper red dot is DPRK missile launch site. correcto

[Right in Wisconsin]

Start a revolution..........

[AmericanInTokyo]

Yes. But of course, Kim Il Sung died in 1994. Kim Jong il assumed total control of posts officially in 1997.

[AmericanInTokyo]

post 67 for clarification

[Gucho]

Kim Jong-il Orders Removal of His Portraits: Source:
http://www.yonhapnews.co.kr/Engnews/20041117/300200000020041117175345E4.html

[Thud]

Care to make a bet that those originated in China?

[Zionist Conspirator]

sorry, meant after the three year traditional Chosun mouring period when Kim was elevated to the supreme posts in 1997. correct

Communists believe in tradition?

I knew nothing about a three year mourning period. I just remember in july 1994 Old Kim died and the local daily newspaper interviewed some Korean War veterans. Also the news noted that the "Great Leader" would now be replaced by the "Dear Leader." Gotta love those "anti-fascist" government titles!!!

[Recovering_Democrat]

Heh heh heh. Would it not be AWESOME if the entire Axis of Evil was gone by the end of Bush II's administration??

[AmericanInTokyo]

That was one of the theories, talked about earlier today on FR. That it (taking signs down) was self-ordered, on threat by China that he would go the way of Mao if he didn't. Interesting to see China's movements in this regard. Again, the Bush re election is the big mover in all of this. Changed the whole scenario for Kim.