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For now, Rossi has 19-vote edge
Seattle Times ^ | 11/17/04 | Times Staff Writers

Posted on 11/17/2004 7:14:01 AM PST by anniegetyourgun

Today, at long last, Democrat Christine Gregoire and Republican Dino Rossi are supposed to find out which one will become Washington's next governor. At least that's the theory.

What they will find out this afternoon, when the counties are required by law to finish counting ballots and certify their results, is who won the most votes. But a mandatory recount is almost certain, so the outcome probably won't be official until at least next week. And before either candidate is declared a winner, they may have to survive legal challenges to the result.

After yesterday's counting, Rossi had a 19-vote lead over Gregoire. In other words, after nearly 2.8 million votes have been tallied, the race is a virtual tie.

About 6,100 ballots remain to be counted today; more than half are in counties where Rossi is leading.

Secretary of State Sam Reed has already announced a news conference for later today to discuss plans for a recount, which is required if the difference is less than one-half of 1 percent and less than 2,000 votes. The recount must be done by hand if the difference is less than 150 votes, unless the candidates agree to another method.

No statewide race has ever gone to a hand recount.

There were two new twists yesterday, both of them favoring Gregoire, in what could become the closest governor's race in state history — if not one of the most bizarre.

King County Superior Court Judge Dean Lum, bemoaning that the state had reached the "dreaded" point where courts were being asked to "micromanage the election," ruled that the county must count hundreds of provisional ballots that were being challenged by the Republican Party.

Meanwhile, election officials in Grays Harbor County announced it was recounting all of its ballots because some votes had been counted twice. The recount cost Rossi hundreds of votes.

To many Republicans, who have not elected a governor in 24 years, the news seemed too bad to be true.

"This is getting very ugly and I tell you there is tremendous suspicion out there about what is happening," said state Republican Party Chairman Chris Vance.

King County controversy

The counting in King County, where around 30 percent of the voters live, has generated the most controversy.

The legal wrangling started last week when the state Democratic Party sued to get the names of more than 900 voters whose provisional ballots were going to be disqualified because their signatures didn't match those on their registration cards.

Provisional ballots are typically used when voters cast ballots outside their regular polling place, when there are uncertainties about voter eligibility and when voters did not receive a requested absentee ballot.

On Friday, Judge Lum agreed that the names ought to be released under the state public disclosure act.

Buoyed by that decision, Democrats turned in affidavits from more than 600 voters whose provisional ballot signatures did not match their signature on file with their voter registration.

So Republicans went to court themselves yesterday, arguing that counting the provisional ballots courted fraud and failed to recognize the special nature of provisional ballots.

"Provisional ballots are different from other absentee or other poll votes and must be granted additional scrutiny," said Republican attorney Diane Tebelius. "The signature on the ballot must match the signature on the registration card."

Democrats and county election officials argued that those who vote by provisional ballot deserve to have their votes counted the same as anyone else.

Voters are not required to either appear in person or bring identification when seeking to change their voter registration, a lawyer for the county's election division said.

Lum agreed, denying the Republican's request. But he was clearly uneasy about being in the election spotlight.

"We have arrived at the moment which all reasonable Washingtonians have dreaded for four years: the moment when the Court is asked to micromanage an election," Lum wrote in his decision.

"Everyone would agree that Court is not the proper place to decide an election, yet this has not stopped both Republicans and Democrats from rushing to Court at the last minute, seeking emergency restraining orders and injunctions, claiming all sorts of improprieties by the other side."

Democratic Party Chairman Paul Berendt said he was thrilled by Lum's decision. "And now I'm just going to sit on the edge of my seat and just watch the votes come in," he said.

The judge's ruling affects fewer than 700 votes, but that could easily be enough to change the outcome.

Lawsuit likely

With the race so tight, Rossi aides and Republican officials said they are likely to file suit today against Yakima County to force it to allow the GOP to submit affidavits from provisional voters there.

Vance said Yakima County Auditor Corky Mattingly, a Democrat, wouldn't accept those affidavits.

"The Democrats were allowed to do this in King County. We're not being allowed to do it in Yakima County," Vance said.

The Grays Harbor County recount was ordered after officials discovered they had miscounted some votes. Yesterday, they ran all their ballots through counting machines a second time.

Grays Harbor Auditor Vern Stratz, a Democrat, said officials took a closer look at his county's results after total turnout reached 93 percent — well above any other county in the state.

They discovered that computer disks used to transfer votes from counting machines to the central tabulator fed in some votes more than once.

In retrospect, Stratz said, he was surprised that no one outside his office looked at the inflated turnout numbers and said, "Gee, Vern, that doesn't look right."

But Rossi got some boosts yesterday when a few counties where he is leading, including Skagit and Walla Walla, tallied more than twice as many votes as expected.

And Rossi did slightly better in yesterday's counts than he has done previously in some of Gregoire's strongest counties, including King and Thurston.

State election officials say the Gregoire-Rossi duel could wind up being the closest governor's race in state history. They have researched back to 1920 and found no race that was decided by less than 1 percent.


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: 2004; americandream; ballot; ballots; bennett; bush; countallthevotes; crime; democrats; dinorossi; election; fraud; gop; governor; graysharbor; gregoire; italoamerican; kingcounty; liberals; liebrals; rats; republican; republicans; rossi; seattle; stolenelection; volunteers; vote; wa; washington
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KEEP UP YOUR PRAYERS FOR WA STATE.

Cheating is clearly going to be a part of this squeaker.....

1 posted on 11/17/2004 7:14:02 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Going to be?

How about the ILLEGAL posting of voters names and addresses that were considered "provisional"?

That alone should merit 10-20 years in the federal pen!


2 posted on 11/17/2004 7:25:18 AM PST by steplock (http://www.outoftimeradio.org)
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To: steplock

I do hope that heads will roll when all is said and done.


3 posted on 11/17/2004 7:25:56 AM PST by anniegetyourgun
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To: anniegetyourgun

Just for a historical perspective, take a look at this article written about the William Goebel - W.S. Taylor gubernatorial race in Kentucky at the turn of the 20th Century: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~goble/homepage/stories/governor.htm


4 posted on 11/17/2004 7:26:11 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: anniegetyourgun

Gregoire will "find" an additional 8,500 ballots from an Indian reservation...


5 posted on 11/17/2004 7:45:57 AM PST by pabianice
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

William Goebel today would be surely a Republican and a doughty supporter of G. W. Bush and GOP.
Thanks for this admirable page of US History. Have you got other similar link?


6 posted on 11/17/2004 8:32:06 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

There is a lot more information out there about Goebel. I would strongly recommend a book called "The Politics of Wrath" written by Kentucky historian (and a personal friend of mine) Dr. James Klotter.

Goebel would probably not be a Republican, nor would we want him. He was the boss of the Democrat machine in northern Kentucky (essentially Cincinnati) and repeatedly worked to suppress the emerging Republican vote in Kentucky.

Not a nice man by any means.


7 posted on 11/17/2004 8:40:56 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

I've understood your demur, but in the end of 19th century Democrat Party was very conservative on values. Just an opinion, but we can't redeploy todays contention between our two parties without keeping in mind some well-timed "fundamentals". For this reason I thought that this Democratic man was brave.


8 posted on 11/17/2004 8:51:11 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: alessandrofiaschi

Oh, I do understand that there were many conservative Democrats at that time period. However, that faction in Kentucky was led by Senator John Brown (who, after Goebel secured the Democrat nomination, broke away and ran as an "Independent Democrat" that year. He received 12% of the vote, despite not having a party structure). Goebel was the boss of the group that was very large city union oriented. Think Tammany Hall.


9 posted on 11/17/2004 8:55:36 AM PST by Bluegrass Conservative
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To: Bluegrass Conservative

Ok, now I agree with you. I didn't know these facts. Thanks for the lesson. Your post is an example of why I love Free Republic.

Alessandro


10 posted on 11/17/2004 8:59:21 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: anniegetyourgun

YES! The prayers are needed! We have fingers and toes crossed. Supposed to be certified by 5pm our time today. If within 2,000 votes and automatic recount will be done.
Go DinO RossI!!


11 posted on 11/17/2004 9:13:46 AM PST by Chronic (Freedom isn't Free \m/ 0(-_-)0 \m/)
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To: Chronic

Rossi's lead is back up to 64 (I think due to 285 votes counted in Columbia), but outstanding votes from King has increased from 1000 to 1450 overnight.


12 posted on 11/17/2004 9:46:13 AM PST by rocklobster11
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To: rocklobster11

How in the hell can it be possible? How many ballots of King remain! Tell me, please!!!


13 posted on 11/17/2004 10:02:54 AM PST by alessandrofiaschi
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To: anniegetyourgun

Attempted Democratic vote fraud BTTT.


14 posted on 11/17/2004 10:28:09 AM PST by pogo101
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To: anniegetyourgun

GOVERNORBallot Name Party Votes Percentage
Christine Gregoire Democrat 1367400 48.87%
Dino Rossi Republican 1367464 48.87%
Ruth Bennett Libertarian 63068 2.25%
View Results by County 3 Candidate(s)

Results last updated on: 11/17/2004 9:29:00 AM

Getting tight. Just 46 votes

Steven Scharf
SCSMedia@aol.com


15 posted on 11/17/2004 10:31:16 AM PST by Steven Scharf
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To: Steven Scharf

oops, I meant 64 votes


16 posted on 11/17/2004 10:32:29 AM PST by Steven Scharf
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To: Steven Scharf

where are you following this?...what web site?....


17 posted on 11/17/2004 10:33:36 AM PST by cherry
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To: Steven Scharf

Looks like Rossi's lead is up to 96 after final votes from Adams, Lewis, and Pierce came in.


18 posted on 11/17/2004 11:08:09 AM PST by rocklobster11
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To: cherry
Try: http://www.vote.wa.gov/general/status.aspx
19 posted on 11/17/2004 11:08:44 AM PST by rocklobster11
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To: rocklobster11

Clallum's final 100 came in, and Rossi is up 113


20 posted on 11/17/2004 11:29:50 AM PST by rocklobster11
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