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The ACLU must be destroyed: Joseph Farah supports Boy Scouts, urges Americans to fight back ^ | Wednesday, November 17, 2004 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 11/16/2004 11:34:30 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Edited on 11/16/2004 11:35:34 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

Wednesday, November 17, 2004

between the lines Joseph Farah
The ACLU must be destroyed

Posted: November 17, 2004
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Joseph Farah

© 2004

Most Americans just laughed and shook our heads in disbelief years ago when a handful of extremists began systematically targeting the Boy Scouts as a "subversive organization."

But over time, because most Americans didn't fight back, didn't marginalize the extremists, didn't speak up proudly and stand behind the Boy Scouts, it is this outstanding civic organization that has taken a beating.

The decision this week by the Defense Department to accommodate the American Civil Liberties Union at the expense of the Boy Scouts illustrates the way our country is being reshaped by the worldview of the extremists.

In case you missed it, the Pentagon has agreed to warn its bases not to sponsor Boy Scout troops in appeasement of the ACLU and end a 5-year-old lawsuit that had charged the government with improperly supporting a group promoting belief in God.

Our founding fathers must be spinning in their graves today.

If you take the ACLU and other extremists supporting its agenda at their word, you have to believe this fight is about "tolerance."

They maintain they oppose the Boy Scouts because of their "intolerance" for people who don't embrace their values. And, in the name of "tolerance," the ACLU and those who consider the Boy Scouts "subversive," have no tolerance for the Boy Scouts – or anyone else who disagrees with them.

The ACLU is never going to change. It is an anti-American organization. It is a group that seeks to destroy all that makes America a unique experiment in freedom. It is an organization in league with all of America's enemies. It is an organization that hates God, hates what is right, decent and morally upright. It is an organization in league with the Devil, as far as I am concerned.

And the ACLU is an organization that needs to be isolated, exposed for what it is, recognized for what it is and destroyed if necessary.

Instead, because most Americans have a live-and-let-live attitude, we "tolerate" the ACLU. We wink at it. Maybe we laugh at it. But the ACLU and its allies continue to push our society, to transform it, to remake it in its own twisted image.

The Boy Scouts have been targeted by the ACLU and the homosexual activists because the Boy Scouts have been uncompromising in their views and standards. The subversives hate that. They hate when people stand up for what's right.

When it becomes dangerous to stand up for what's right in America, you know we're in trouble as a nation.

Let me ask you a question: Would you rather live next door to a family that hosts a Boy Scout troop or a family of homosexual activists? Would you rather live next door to a family of people who attend church or synagogue every week, or would you prefer to live next door to the local head of the ACLU?

What's so scary about the Boy Scouts?

A Boy Scout pledges to be trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent.

A Boy Scout vows to keep himself physically strong, morally straight and mentally alert.

And because of these characteristics and goals, the Boy Scouts today are under siege – the latest target in the Culture War.

When you see an institution like this under attack, it should set off an internal warning that our very way of life – not just the Boy Scouts – is threatened by an organized, well-funded conspiracy. I know many do not like that word "conspiracy," but no other synonym in the English language is appropriate in this context.

Think about it.

There are people in our society today who believe that it is unconstitutional for citizens to act on their moral judgments, such as the view that homosexuality is wrong. They believe that the state has the right coercively to dictate matters of conscience.

As these enemies of freedom, morality and responsibility see it, the Boy Scouts do not have the right to assert their First Amendment rights.

And they are succeeding. As incredible as it may seem, they are winning this Culture War. The establishment press is their ally. The entertainment industry is their ally. The federal government is their ally. The schools are their allies. The foundations are their allies. The apostate churches and synagogues are their allies. Now, even the U.S. military has become their ally.

It's time to reframe the debate. That's the only way our civilization, as we know it, can survive. It's time to tell the truth. It's time to stand up for decency.

That we now live in a world in which it is dangerous to stand up for trustworthiness, loyalty, helpfulness, friendliness, courteousness, kindness, obedience, cheerfulness, bravery, cleanliness and reverence should be a warning to us all.

The stakes are high.

I, for one, am taking a public stand in favor of the Boy Scouts. I like what they stand for. Even though I have never been a Scout or involved with the organization (as a father of five girls), I consider their goals and objectives beyond reproach.

I guess it's time to add me to the enemies list. I support the Boy Scouts – unequivocally, unabashedly, unashamedly. The Boy Scouts personify the kind of world in which I would like to live and raise my family.

If this is the new dividing line in our society, let the barricades be erected. I'm not retreating – not another inch.

Who's with me?

TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aclj; aclu; adf; bsa; churchandstate; farah; firstamendment
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To: JohnHuang2


I can't believe the DoD would cave in to them. Sad sad day.


61 posted on 11/17/2004 1:56:25 PM PST by Red6
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To: Peach


62 posted on 11/17/2004 2:02:26 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

'Join the fight against the ACLU and their ilk by becoming involved with and supporting the following organizations:
American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ) -

Thomas More Law Center -

Alliance Defense Fund -'

thanks for the ping.

63 posted on 11/17/2004 9:07:58 PM PST by bitt (I miss Teresa already.)
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64 posted on 11/18/2004 5:11:10 AM PST by Tailgunner Joe
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To: international american
ACLU has also blatantly come out in support of dangerous pedophiles and has defended NAMBLA in a civil suit. ACLU have used extortion and endless lawsuits on small communities with limited funds. Now Rep. Hayworth (R Arizona) is asking Rumsfeld to defend Scouts.
65 posted on 11/18/2004 5:17:09 AM PST by Dante3
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66 posted on 11/18/2004 7:25:36 AM PST by ride the whirlwind
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To: sasafras
we need to start a fund with the specific purpose of going after the liberals like the ACLU is going after conservative organizations

I'd be happy to see a fund started for the purpose of wiping out the ACLU.

67 posted on 11/18/2004 9:05:38 AM PST by Pirate21 (America has spoken!! Now, let's live up to the call.)
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To: bitt
thanks for the ping.

De nada. The ACLU is evil, and my sons are future Eagle Scouts, two excellent reasons to call patriots to this fight. The ACLU succeeds, because not enough good men are fighting.

68 posted on 11/18/2004 10:29:00 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (I used to be a lumberjack, but I just couldn't hack it. They gave me the axe.)
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To: JohnHuang2

How can we all get together and destroy the ACLU.. how do we do it? The UN is on the run because of solid corruption. I bet we can find corruption at the ACLU also.

69 posted on 11/18/2004 10:30:07 AM PST by Porterville (IT'S GOOD TO BE REPUBLICAN- ASK ME HOW)
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To: JohnHuang2

Can you send this to everyone on this thread, and to your ping lists, JH?

Click on the ACLU Letter link, and fax it.

70 posted on 11/20/2004 9:53:15 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm (• veni • vidi • vino • visa • "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: JohnHuang2


71 posted on 11/20/2004 10:06:30 AM PST by jan in Colorado (I'm not opinionated, I'm Just Always "Right "!)
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Cut off the funds-works every time.

72 posted on 11/20/2004 10:09:40 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (Further, the statement assumed)
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To: JohnHuang2

1. Never hire a lawyer who belongs to the ACLU.

2. Does anyone have a list of corporations that donate to the ACLU?

73 posted on 11/20/2004 10:12:02 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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How about forbiding the ACLU from operating out of any law school and prohibit students from using activity in the ACLU to obtain law school credits.

74 posted on 11/20/2004 10:12:59 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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To: JohnHuang2

It's time to fight back against these thugs!

75 posted on 11/20/2004 10:17:39 AM PST by mowkeka
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To: america-rules

"It's been DOD policy for 40 years not to sponsor any outside groups. I spent 20 years active duty and we all knew the rules of sponsorship of any outside non military group and it's a no no.

This doesn't mean Boyscouts cannot have meetings on base or that military personnel can't be part of the scouts. It simply means that no DOD organization can sponsor them just like they can't sponsor a wife's club or Squadron Officers Group.

If you don't know it the military can't even buy a retirement trophy or award for someone with Gov't funds. I've gone deep in to my checkbook many times coughing up the funds for retirements, going away gifts and the like. The commander handed them out at official functions but they we paid by private funds.

The civilians that never served like Farah, Savage etc. need to get smart on this issue before blasting Bush, Rumsfield etc. on a policy that's decades old."

So what you are saying is this does NOT mean that the BSA is automatically kicked off all DoD facilities worldwide? Merely that they cannot be officially sponsored. Let's all hope that the warning memo sent out systemwide was very clear in it's wording. I can just imagine skittish, PC base commanders overreacting spectacularly.

If what you are saying is true, this need be no more damaging than when the ACLU forced the Marine Corps to stop directly sponsoring the "Toys for Tots" campaign ten years ago. I believe the program was smoothly moved over to the Marine Corp League to administer and raise money for.

76 posted on 11/28/2004 11:04:16 AM PST by sinanju
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To: JohnHuang2
If this is the new dividing line in our society, let the barricades be erected. I'm not retreating – not another inch.

Count me in, its time to draw a line in the sand. PC and diversity are enemies of the USA, and the Boy Scouts are one of the most patriotic groups in support of the USA. The ACLU is fighting the legal fight to overthrow the USA and its ideals. And BTW, being offended is OK, they can live with it. No one is granted the right to be unoffended.

77 posted on 11/28/2004 11:08:51 AM PST by KC_for_Freedom (Sailing the highways of America, and loving it.)
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78 posted on 11/28/2004 5:49:48 PM PST by EdReform (Free Republic - helping to keep our country a free republic. Thank you for your financial support!)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Interesting Idea. Repeal the first amendment! Is that what you want!?! State Sponsored Religion? Wow!! I guess that would solve this problem likety split. The ACLU would no longer have a leg to stand on to protect unpopular speech. Man those bastards! They want people that say stuff nobody likes, ( like I am not a Christian, how dare they ) to be heard. You are so right! I want to end free speech and have the Amish to mandate their religion to the rest of us ASAP.
79 posted on 12/30/2004 10:03:33 AM PST by bigtim
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To: KC_for_Freedom
Did the ACLU say the Boy Scouts were a bad group? Or did they say that if the Boy Scouts, a good Christian group that teaches young men how to do many useful things, should not be sponsored by the government? The Boy Scouts are a good group. They are a Christian Group. If the Boy Scouts are tacitly supported by the government, then should a Muslim boy scout group be supported? How about an Atheist one? or a Jewish one? or a Hindu one? One is correct that the USA is about 85% Christian, but that could change. There are over 1 billion Muslims and over 1 billion atheists in the world. There is about 1 billion Hindus. Hey, some of them could move here and want to have a Muslim boy scout group at the local school. Would you like that? There already is large Muslim population here. Why wouldn't continue to grow? There is a lot of Hindus here. Why not a Hindu boy scout group at the local school?
80 posted on 12/30/2004 10:10:52 AM PST by bigtim
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