Rumsfeld, Hostettler Warn US Borders at Risk toTerrorism

CNN.com/Lou Dobbs Tonight ^ | Nov. 16, 2004 | Lou Dobbs

[AuntB]

DOBBS: Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld is warning of the threat of terrorists entering this country through the same routes as those used by illegal aliens. Secretary Rumsfeld, traveling in South America, warned that enemies look for weaknesses and take advantage of them.

DONALD RUMSFELD: The risk is that some of these human-smuggling routes into our country from this hemisphere could be used just as easily for terrorists. ~snip~

REP. JOHN HOSTETTLER (R-IN), CHAIRMAN, SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION AND BORDER SECURITY: : Well, the House will not be taking up in a positive sense guest worker legislation. We know that this is a priority for some in Washington. It is not a priority for the House of Representatives. In fact, those of us in the House that deal closely with the immigration issue believe that we need to go the other way. And that is look at the issue of enforcement and strong enforcement of our immigration laws in order to keep not only more millions of illegal aliens out, but to do something about the 10 plus million that are here now.

HOSTETTLER: Oh, well, this is something that we have been concerned about for years. It is an issue that, as we look at the number of individuals crossing the southern border, referred to as OTMs, or other than Mexicans, that number is rising drastically, because others in the world realize that our southern border is porous. Our men and women in uniform and the Border Patrol are doing everything they can and then some to enforce and strengthen the border. There are just not enough of them. And this is something that there may be some disconnect within the administration..~snip~

[Paperdoll]

Well, Rummy, welcome to the party. I've been complaining about this to the WH and the RNC for at least seven or eight months now. I am glad someone is finally waking up maybe to shut the barn door a tad too late.

[Joe Hadenuf]

You bet.

[janetgreen]

it wouldn't hurt to let all Senators know that the people don't agree with President Bush on this issue

A good place to do just that is to sign up at www.numbersusa.com. Free, pre-written and pre-addressed faxes (and you can add your own P.S.) to all the usual suspects in the House, Senate, White House, etc. Fax away!

[Joe Hadenuf]

Now at least half a dozen other states are considering similar measures."

Talk of the town in Cal.

[AuntB]

"WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Most of the new proposals restricting benefits for illegal aliens are expected to reach voters or state legislatures in 2005 or 2006. Sponsors are learning from past experience, specifically court challenges to California's Proposition 187 10 years ago. It sought to deny most public benefits to illegal aliens, but parts were rejected by a federal judge.

So the new proposals plan to exempt federally-mandated benefits, such as emergency medical care and K-12 public schooling. Still, Latino advocacy groups plan to sue as soon as Arizona's law becomes certified next week

While it's unclear how the courts will rule, supporters say Proposition 200 has already accomplished something significant. Supporters say it has exploded the myth that Latinos favor illegal immigration because, of course, nearly half of Latinos in Arizona voted in favor of 200"



www.cnn.com/lou

QUICK VOTE

Would you support legislation similar to Proposition 200 in your state?

Yes 79% 1667 votes

No 21% 445 votes

Total: 2112 votes

[TheCrusader]

Suddenly Pat Buchanan's idea of building a wall along the Mexican border doesn't look quite so radical.

[AuntB]

Yes, everyone please contact your senators. The last I heard they had 66 votes to leave out the house provisions from the intelligence bill. www.senate.gov

[AuntB]

Thanks janet, keep reminding us of those contacts.


www.senate.gov -- The senate is the one who wants to stop any regulation of the border/illegals in the latest bill.

[exhaustedmomma]

What's the name of the transcript? The link is dead. I went into CNN.com. Can't find the right transcript.

BTW, while Tancredo was busy working on The Tancredo Moratorium Bill, where were the "smarter and quicker" folks? Locking Tancredo in the woodshed.

[Pastnowfuturealpha]

Just one thought -

On something else - a time ago - someone was able to down play the number of people e-mailing because the e-mails all said the same thing - pointed out that it was a controlled drive -

Don't know if it makes a difference - but I'd rather write my own - I think the person suggested the e-mails may have come from the same people - using different names - or something along that line - like a put down when they(e-mails) all say the same thing -

I don't want to give the corrupt media anything to work with -

just my thoughts

[janetgreen]

Aunt B - Another good free fax site is at FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform). The website is:

http://capwiz.com/fair/mail/confirm/

[Joe Hadenuf]

Suddenly Pat Buchanan's idea of building a wall along the Mexican border doesn't look quite so radical.

That only sounded radical to the neoconservatives and rhinos.

[Pastnowfuturealpha]

I'll do so again - as a reminder - also will put in what is going on in the states - that will help greatly - :)

[AuntB]

"
REP. JOHN HOSTETTLER (R-IN), CHAIRMAN, SUBCOMMITTEE ON IMMIGRATION AND BORDER SECURITY: : Well, the House will not be taking up in a positive sense guest worker legislation. We know that this is a priority for some in Washington. It is not a priority for the House of Representatives. In fact, those of us in the House that deal closely with the immigration issue believe that we need to go the other way. And that is look at the issue of enforcement and strong enforcement of our immigration laws in order to keep not only more millions of illegal aliens out, but to do something about the 10 plus million that are here now.

.....this is something that we have been concerned about for years. It is an issue that, as we look at the number of individuals crossing the southern border, referred to as OTMs, or other than Mexicans, that number is rising drastically, because others in the world realize that our southern border is porous. Our men and women in uniform and the Border Patrol are doing everything they can and then some to enforce and strengthen the border. There are just not enough of them. And this is something that there may be some disconnect within the administration.."~snip~

www.cnn.com/lou transcripts 11/16/04

[AuntB]

Try this one from the top of the post:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0411/16/ldt.01.html

Well, it looks like some of his compadres in the house are pulling him out of that woodshed. I don't know much about Tancredo, I just know what I've seen happening for about 5 to 6 years. You couldn't even bring up the subject then.

[nanak]

Tom Tancredo 2008 = Last Hope to Save America
Tom Tancredo 2008 = Hill-de-Beasts worst nightmare
Tom Tancredo 2008 = Principled Conservative Leadership Money Can't Buy

I am an immigrant. I can't believe that while my brother is fighting the ISLAMIC-BUTCHERS in Fallujah, my country is being invaded by third world illgals.

I can't take it anymore.

I can't tolerate that AMERICA is being turned into a third world socialist filth that me and my family left behind.

I want to live in the United States that GREAT GEORGE WASHINGTON DREAMT OF.

[janetgreen]

Good idea, and I do often write my own script at www.numbersusa.com. If I use the prescripted message, I usually change it, using bold or capital letters to make my point and adding my own P.S. Thanks for pointing that out, PNFA.

[John Lenin]

"The most obvious reason is the certainty that this monster will be in jail for the rest of his life and never get the opportunity to offend again," he said

At a cost of between $16-$21 thousand a year.

[AuntB]

" my brother is fighting the ISLAMIC-BUTCHERS in Fallujah"
Oh, bless your heart and his!! My thoughts are with all of your family. And yes, I see this invasion of the border as a direct insult to your brother and all those kids and all LEGAL immigrants. Doesn't sound like Mr. Rumsfeld liked it either. He stated all this in his usual direct way.

[Joe Hadenuf]

bttt