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Some Democrats Believe the Party Should Get Religion
New York Times ^ | November 17, 2004 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 11/16/2004 7:36:23 PM PST by AmericanMade1776

Bested by a Republican campaign emphasizing Christian faith, some Democrats are scrambling to shake off their secular image, stepping up efforts to organize the "religious left" and debating changes to how they approach the cultural flashpoints of same-sex marriage and abortion.

Some call the election a warning. "You can't have everybody who goes to church vote Republican; you just can't," Al From, founder of the Democratic Leadership Council, said last week at a forum on the election.

Religious traditionalists including Dr. Richard Land, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the conservative Southern Baptist Convention, and Jim Wallis of the liberal evangelical group Sojourners say Democratic officials are calling them for advice on reaching conservative Christians. And they and some other theologically orthodox supporters of Mr. Bush say it may not take much for Democrats to make inroads among their constituency, if the party demonstrates a greater friendliness to religious beliefs and even modestly softens its support for abortion rights.

"It would not be hard," said the Rev. Richard John Neuhaus, editor of the journal First Things and a conservative Catholic who has advised Mr. Bush on how to handle the issue of abortion.

But Democrats disagree about how to establish the party's spiritual credentials.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dncplaybook; godgap; howtostealanelection; kerrydefeat; religiousleft; religiousvote
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To: AmericanMade1776
You can not promote the concept of "victim-hood excuses all wrongs" and appeal to "values voters".

You are responsible for your actions; responsible to your family, responsible to society and responsible to God.

If one is to be excused for current failings because of the past wrongs of others, why change? Why study your religion?

Unless the Democrats embrace the concept of personal responsibility, they can not make any claims about values.
41 posted on 11/16/2004 8:03:20 PM PST by still_learning (Are those Kerrys nuts or what?)
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To: AmericanMade1776
It has religion, just not one very popular in a county populated by Christians.
42 posted on 11/16/2004 8:05:02 PM PST by msnimje
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To: AmericanMade1776

The democrats put on their 'principles' like they put on a cheap coat of paint.

That paint smells bad, and is gonna flake, fade, and peel.


43 posted on 11/16/2004 8:08:06 PM PST by Dat Mon (clever tagline under construction)
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To: RicocheT
The demonrats can only win if they successfully fool the American people as to who they are, what they believe and what they will do once in office. Anywhere else it is called fraud.
44 posted on 11/16/2004 8:08:14 PM PST by Scales (Earth First, we will mine the other planets later)
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To: FBD
"Man, you're really finding the examples of your morphing theory, of the left, aren't ya."

Like shooting fish in a barrel.
I almost feel guilty, they're that easy to anticipate.

"OK, I know, I know...'it's not a theory, it's fact'!"

Well it is, and they haven't even begun to get cranked with the reinvention of themselves.

"Hmmmmmm...maybe we should call it 'Landru's Law'"?

Sounds great!!

Maybe even a *TV* series?

...seated right next to Sybil the Soothsayer. {g}

45 posted on 11/16/2004 8:08:23 PM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

"Can I get me some religion here?"

46 posted on 11/16/2004 8:08:34 PM PST by JennysCool (1969'ers telling us how to run our government are like 1929'ers telling us how to land on the moon.)
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To: Paul Atreides
Some Democrats Believe the Party Should Get Religion

You are correct...

47 posted on 11/16/2004 8:10:05 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: AmericanMade1776

Won't ever work. Democrats really push the "Big Tent" concept. That will never appeal to conservative evangelicals. The Republican party needs to remember this, in that many "moderates" are crying for a "Big Tent" in the Republican party.

All big tents are good for are circuses. If you make a political party a big tent that is exactly what you get - a circus.


48 posted on 11/16/2004 8:11:27 PM PST by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: AmericanMade1776
They are only beginning to get a sense of their predicament.

Notice that, as the MSM attempts to explain their losses, they invariably discuss how the country has "moved to the Right". The never mention how the Democrat Party has moved to the far Left. Thus they still don't understand what has been happening.

With their grip on public communication weakening by the day, their old strategies (obfuscation, demagoguery) are no longer working. They are like the proverbial buggy whip manufacturer who never grasped the impact of the automobile.

Plus, in the modern age of mass media marketing, they seem to think that they can just go to the makeup room and put some "religion" makeup on, and then things will be as they always were.

These folks are losers going down the tubes right before our collective eyes. Life is getting better every day.

49 posted on 11/16/2004 8:11:57 PM PST by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Time to let slip the dogs...)
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To: Right Brother

WoW!! That's great.


50 posted on 11/16/2004 8:15:53 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

I can see an opportunity here.
Tell all them RATS to come on down to Dudesdad's
Religion Store. I can sell them some.
It will be so easy to hoodwink this group because none of them can recognize religion. I can sell them anything as long as I call it religion.
I can see the money pouring in now.


51 posted on 11/16/2004 8:16:53 PM PST by Dudesdad
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To: AmericanMade1776
It's not as though Kerry didn't talk the talk.

The Dems would be smart just not being so pro-abort. Get rid of Roe and abortion becomes much less a national issue.

52 posted on 11/16/2004 8:17:20 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: dubyaismypresident

Sorry .. sorry .. I'll try to keep it down!!


53 posted on 11/16/2004 8:17:40 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

It'll cost 'em the remainder of their base.


54 posted on 11/16/2004 8:17:45 PM PST by Pete'sWife (Dirt is for racing... asphalt is for getting there.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
Some Democrats Believe the Party Should Get Religion

They'll be ordering several thousand Bill Clinton king size Bibles with “Holy Bible” written on both front and back covers in the optional 2 inch high gold leaf letters that will show up in pictures taken a mile away.

Of course the Democrats problem is that, like with guns, when they go on public relations photo shoots, the Democrats really don't mean it, and everyone knows it!

55 posted on 11/16/2004 8:17:49 PM PST by RJL
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To: JennysCool
"Can I get me some religion here?"

LOL... Well done.

56 posted on 11/16/2004 8:20:49 PM PST by RJL
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To: AmericanMade1776
But Democrats disagree about how to establish the party's spiritual credentials.

What is the problem? Just LIE, like you always do!

57 posted on 11/16/2004 8:22:48 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Paul Atreides
Politics is the religion of the left.
58 posted on 11/16/2004 8:44:30 PM PST by schu
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To: AmericanMade1776

Sincerity is very important. If democRats can fake that, the rest is easier.


59 posted on 11/16/2004 8:45:47 PM PST by Tax Government (Defeat the Legacy Media. Become a monthly contributor to FR.)
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To: Michael Barnes

The DemocRATs are obviously not Calvinists.


60 posted on 11/16/2004 8:53:58 PM PST by Holden Magroin
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