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Some Democrats Believe the Party Should Get Religion
New York Times ^ | November 17, 2004 | DAVID D. KIRKPATRICK

Posted on 11/16/2004 7:36:23 PM PST by AmericanMade1776

Bested by a Republican campaign emphasizing Christian faith, some Democrats are scrambling to shake off their secular image, stepping up efforts to organize the "religious left" and debating changes to how they approach the cultural flashpoints of same-sex marriage and abortion.

Some call the election a warning. "You can't have everybody who goes to church vote Republican; you just can't," Al From, founder of the Democratic Leadership Council, said last week at a forum on the election.

Religious traditionalists including Dr. Richard Land, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the conservative Southern Baptist Convention, and Jim Wallis of the liberal evangelical group Sojourners say Democratic officials are calling them for advice on reaching conservative Christians. And they and some other theologically orthodox supporters of Mr. Bush say it may not take much for Democrats to make inroads among their constituency, if the party demonstrates a greater friendliness to religious beliefs and even modestly softens its support for abortion rights.

"It would not be hard," said the Rev. Richard John Neuhaus, editor of the journal First Things and a conservative Catholic who has advised Mr. Bush on how to handle the issue of abortion.

But Democrats disagree about how to establish the party's spiritual credentials.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: dncplaybook; godgap; howtostealanelection; kerrydefeat; religiousleft; religiousvote
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Give the Democrats that Ol' Time Religion!
1 posted on 11/16/2004 7:36:23 PM PST by AmericanMade1776
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To: AmericanMade1776

If you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig. Besides, why would you want to?


2 posted on 11/16/2004 7:40:19 PM PST by Scales (Earth First, we will mine the other planets later)
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Some Democrats Believe the Party Should Get Religion

Oxymoron...They would have to renounce homosexuals, abortion and lying; not to mention, varying crisis the dem's have with saying such things as "one nation, under God...."...

One does not "get" religion, one receives it.

3 posted on 11/16/2004 7:43:00 PM PST by Michael Barnes
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To: Scales

How about the democrats start seeing the world as it truly is and not keep trying to warp the publics view of the world for political gain. Yeah that might just work. Put America first for a change. Listen to Miller and Lieberman when they warn democrats about the how dangerous a foe we face out there. WAKE UP DEMS! Islamo-facists dont care if your a liberal. Your an infidel and they want you dead as any of us.


4 posted on 11/16/2004 7:43:17 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Scales

If you can put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

LOL They must think we're morons if they think we won't know the difference. Sorry RATS..you lost people of faith with your sexualizing of children and promotion of abortion and homosexuals. We're not going to forget it. You've done irreparable harm to this nation, and we're all living with the consequences.


5 posted on 11/16/2004 7:44:16 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING (He is faithful!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

They certainly have their work cut out for them.

Clinton should've supported the partial birth abortion ban, but this all-abortion-all-the-time turns many off, obviously.


6 posted on 11/16/2004 7:44:16 PM PST by PhillyGal
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To: AmericanMade1776
It's funny: this year, I've seen umpteen "I'm a Democrat and a Christian" bumper stickers, but not one "I'm a Republican and a Christian" bumper stickers.

I wonder who the Dims are trying to convince.

7 posted on 11/16/2004 7:44:59 PM PST by Paul Atreides
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To: AmericanMade1776

They already have it...The REV Jackson is one good example!


8 posted on 11/16/2004 7:45:32 PM PST by Hotdog
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To: Everybody

This idea is highly repulsive and quite frankly, Democrat liberals have already infiltrated several different denominations with their errant theology on homosexuality. John Edward's own minister winked at his supporting partial-birth abortion saying it is only a mere opinion. They already have their nasty claws on the throat of the church and if they can rip out its soul to win votes, they will.


9 posted on 11/16/2004 7:46:35 PM PST by SeasideSparrow
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To: AmericanMade1776

The question is, *what* religion? Aztec sun god worship complete with human sacrifice? Mesopotamian goddess worship? Throwing babies in the fire to Molech?


10 posted on 11/16/2004 7:47:01 PM PST by valkyrieanne (card-carrying South Park Republican)
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To: AmericanMade1776

They tried it in 2000 and 2002. The far left fears religion and they don't understand religion. They think to be religious you have to be a snake handling holy rolling bible thumper that won't take your kid to the doctor. Before the left finds religion, they should stop being Anti-religious. Calling the red states "Jesusland" doesn't help them.


11 posted on 11/16/2004 7:47:41 PM PST by Defendingliberty (www.456th.com)
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To: Scales

The "Religion" the Democrat Party says it will get is a jail house conversion -- when a con decides to praise God to talk the judge into ordering a lighter sentence. The conversion tends to evaporate once the con is out.

Religion, values or morality is shown by living life with these attributes. The Democrats want to paste these into their next campaign ad, not very convincing!


12 posted on 11/16/2004 7:47:43 PM PST by RicocheT
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To: AmericanMade1776

Anyone who is REALLY a Bible believing Christian could not support the democrat party as it is today. They are for almost everything the Bible speaks against. They know it, I know it. So, they will pretend to believe while at the same time ridiculing those of us who really do.


13 posted on 11/16/2004 7:47:47 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: AmericanMade1776

they have their religions:
hedonism,paganism,druidism,wicca,wahabbism...


14 posted on 11/16/2004 7:47:58 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Justice of the Piece: Hope IS on the way...)
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To: AmericanMade1776

As has already been said:

you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.


15 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:08 PM PST by CyberAnt (Where are the dem supporters? - try the trash cans in back of the abortion clinics.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Wicca?


16 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:20 PM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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"Bested by a Republican campaign emphasizing Christian faith, some Democrats are scrambling to shake off their secular image, stepping up efforts to organize the 'religious left' and debating changes to how they approach the cultural flashpoints of same-sex marriage and abortion."

>BEHOLD!<

Yet another example.

...of even more morphing.

17 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:54 PM PST by Landru (Indulgences: 2 for a buck.)
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To: AmericanMade1776
GET religion? They already worship Satan. That's a religion of sorts I guess.
18 posted on 11/16/2004 7:48:55 PM PST by broadsword (When Islam creeps into a human society, oppression, misogyny and terror come hard on its heels.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Not believe, just pretend to. That's the typical dishonest democrat way don'tchaknow.


19 posted on 11/16/2004 7:49:05 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: CyberAnt
you can put lipstick on a pig but it's still a pig.

Enough with the Hillary bashing :-)

20 posted on 11/16/2004 7:49:22 PM PST by NeoCaveman ("I expressed myself rather forcefully, felt better after I had done it," -- VP Cheney)
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