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Marine accused of wrongful shooting needs our help...
16 nov 04 | Atlanta

Posted on 11/16/2004 4:34:34 AM PST by Atlanta

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To: oldngray
First of all, I am older than you.
Second, do not accuse me of disappointment. You are inferring something I do not appreciate.
Third, I have had a quarter century in uniform.
Fourth, you must realize that this situation is explosive and I am certain it will indeed escalate to an Article 32.
Fifth, I vicariously would have opted for the MOAB softening of viper pit.
421 posted on 11/16/2004 7:55:47 AM PST by verity (The Liberal Media is America's Enemy)
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To: Landru

Thanks for the ping. I signed on today just to see if there was any more information re this travesty. If this Marine is sacrificed to the liberal $hit$ who seem to care more for our enemies than they do about our country I will lose what's left of my mind. We cannot stand by and allow it to happen!


422 posted on 11/16/2004 7:56:30 AM PST by scholar
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To: jimbo123

Just sent this smug media jerk a piece of my mind...but I will not feel any better until "embedded" media are no longer allowed in combat.


423 posted on 11/16/2004 7:57:51 AM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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To: Iron Eagle

Thanks, Bro.


425 posted on 11/16/2004 8:00:28 AM PST by MindBender26 (Al Queda, Taliban, Dan Rather, Jessie Jackson, Osama Bin Laden: Same slime, different uniforms.)
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To: momf

I'm no Kerry apologist, but wasn't the VC armed? Did he ever say he shot him in the back himself?

If this insurgent was armed, then that might be an analogous situation, but shouldn't we have disarmed prisoners? I thought this guy who was shot was captured much earlier.

I'm confused. How could the marine claim he thought the guy was armed unless he knew we aren't checking bodies and removing weapons?


426 posted on 11/16/2004 8:00:30 AM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: verity

I apologize for using the word "disappoint". I understand that you would not be disappointed.

I am intrigued by your reference to age... what is the significance to that? I didn't know my age was known.


427 posted on 11/16/2004 8:00:35 AM PST by oldngray
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To: Atlanta
"I hate newspapermen. They come into camp and pick up their camp rumors and print them as facts. I regard them as spies, which, in truth, they are. If I killed them all there would be news from Hell before breakfast."

- Civil War General William Tecumseh Sherman

428 posted on 11/16/2004 8:00:44 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: All

Scarborough can take this story under his wing. He has access to all the footage and the NBC reporters. We should e-mail him.

joe@msnbc.com

Call the Marines and voice your support:

Public relations, Commandant of the Marine Corps, in DC.

703 614 2500


429 posted on 11/16/2004 8:01:49 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (The Mainstream Media is Enemy #1.)
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To: TFine80

You wrote:
"Beyond ruining this courageous young man's life when he is still in danger, they are producing propaganda for our enemies...

Sick and insane. And you should have heard the glee in the NBC radio report..."

It is astonishing that the MSM love to wallow about in self righteous anti American drivel and then in the same breath or paragraph, conclude that we should blame the Bush Administration/Military of 'angering the Arab Street' or that US actions only create more terrorists. IT IS THE MSM WHO STIR UP THE RAGE OF THE ARAB STREET WITH 'STORIES' LIKE ABU GRAIB AND IT IS THEIR 'STORIES' THAT OBL USES AS RECRUTING TOOLS! Now this 'story' will wet their insatiable appetite for making America look like the enemy of the world. It is time for the world and the MSM to be forced to fret over the ANGERING THE AMERICAN STREET! Write those letters to your senators and congressmen today!


430 posted on 11/16/2004 8:02:54 AM PST by penelopesire
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To: Valin

Well...let's see...if there is a law against shooting wounded people in combat, then most of our Marines involved in this battle shouldn't be fired on. I am sure they all have cuts and bruises that would warrant them Purple Hearts if they were John Kerry. You weren't there, you don't know what type of weapon this terrorist did or didn't have, don't condemn this Marine without knowing the facts yet. I am still reserving my final opinion on this but from the information being reported, if he is found to be guilty of any wrong doing, he will be sent to the Naval Hospital on Camp Pendleton for combat fatigue.

Just my opinion of course.


431 posted on 11/16/2004 8:02:57 AM PST by KurtAZ (If we aren't supposed to eat animals, why are they made out of meat?)
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To: Atlanta

There are NO WORDS in the English language to express my disgust with the MSM, and Cable News shows. As far as I am concerned they are outright traitors. As a Christian I am supposed to love my enemy. I found out long ago, that no matter how hard I try, I am not a very good Christian.


432 posted on 11/16/2004 8:03:10 AM PST by PISANO (Never Forget 911!! & 911's 1st Heroes..... "Beamer, Glick, Bingham & Bennett.")
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To: Praxeus
The media is rotten to the core. That you do not have the wherewithal to perceive this is telling.

Good grief. I most certainly do perceive it. That you would make a leaps and bounds conclusion so error ridden is what is telling.

433 posted on 11/16/2004 8:03:27 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: demlosers

>By prosecuting a young Marine.....

This Marine is NOT being prosecuted. They are conducting an Article 31 investigation. After that investigation, the Commanding Officer will decide if prosecution is called for.


434 posted on 11/16/2004 8:04:15 AM PST by MindBender26 (Al Queda, Taliban, Dan Rather, Jessie Jackson, Osama Bin Laden: Same slime, different uniforms.)
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To: KurtAZ

But then more video shots of the enemy acting unlawfully would be VERY helpful.


435 posted on 11/16/2004 8:04:20 AM PST by Gondring (They can have my Bill of Rights when they pry it from my cold, dead hands!)
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To: Praxeus

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1281046/posts?page=302#302

Read it and see that I am correct. The Marines agree with me that the embedded program has been more beneficial than not.


436 posted on 11/16/2004 8:05:00 AM PST by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Atlanta

I believe we need to support this Marine.

HOwever, I think we need to be careful how we do it so we are most effective.

The USMC will do an investigation. It may or may not end up in a GCM. Given that, what are the real threats? I think they are:

1. The REMFs at USMC HQ may feel that a larger investigation is needed than would normally be necessary in order to satisfy the public relations aspect. We need to call the USMC and let them know our support of this Marine to stop that. (Numer has been posted)

2. The Old Media will hype this well beyond what is appropriate. Their hype undermines any justice that this Marine might receive. There have been some who have posted that they think that this Marine may have acted improperly. I don't, but that is not the issue. We can all agree that he should be treated fairly and that an MSM lynching is not that.

The Old Media have recently lost their two big viewer draws: the election and the Scott Peterson trial. They are looking for something new. A big story.

We need to slam the Old Media and let them and their advertisers know.

The remaining problem is Sites. We have to be carefull about attacking him because his natural defense is: "the camera never lies." We need to be careful not to walk into that trap. A better attack on him should be based on the fact that he turned the tape over to a foreign news service, which sensationalized the story, rather than to the appropriate DoD legal authorities. This was irresponsible behavior.


437 posted on 11/16/2004 8:06:35 AM PST by 2ndreconmarine
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To: Atlanta

What I don't understand - and I posted on it days ago - is why terrorist-fighters caught out-of-uniform are not summarily executed anyway?


438 posted on 11/16/2004 8:06:46 AM PST by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: ml1954
There was no indication that the Terr was so wired. If there was no such indication, but it's Ok to shoot this one, then it's Ok to kill all wounded enemy.

It takes a lot to put aside the heat of battle when you need to. It takes discipline.
439 posted on 11/16/2004 8:07:05 AM PST by MindBender26 (Al Queda, Taliban, Dan Rather, Jessie Jackson, Osama Bin Laden: Same slime, different uniforms.)
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To: Just Dan

"I am very familiar with this situation, as it happened to me in 2002."

Welcome to FR and thank you so much for your service! I loved the pictures on your page.


440 posted on 11/16/2004 8:07:30 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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