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Goss Reportedly Rebuffed Senior Officials at CIA -- Four Fear New Chief Is Isolating Himself
Washington Post ^ | November 14, 2004 | By Walter Pincus and Dana Priest

Posted on 11/14/2004 7:41:52 AM PST by aculeus

Within the past month, four former deputy directors of operations have tried to offer CIA Director Porter J. Goss advice about changing the clandestine service without setting off a rebellion, but Goss has declined to speak to any of them, said former CIA officials aware of the communications.

The four senior officials represent nearly two decades of experience leading the Directorate of Operations under both Republican and Democratic presidents. The officials were dismayed by the reaction and were concerned that Goss has isolated himself from the agency's senior staff, said former clandestine service officers aware of the offers.

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To: Wolfstar

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The Plot To Hijack the CIA


61 posted on 11/14/2004 9:46:34 AM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: Endeavor
Just the fact that these "senior CIA officials" have leaked this info to the WP says a lot about them

Notice the sources for this story are not even "senior CIA officials" but "former" CIA officials supposedly familiar with the circumstances.

This could be anybody, from disgruntled Clintonoids to discredited Carterites.

If the Washington Post can't do any better than this, then Goss is obviously on the right track.

GO PORTER. Make the agency THE great asset for world peace once again.

62 posted on 11/14/2004 10:05:23 AM PST by Edit35
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To: IStillBelieve
So if Goss purges all the senior personnel, from where will he obtain experienced replacements?

The DIA.

63 posted on 11/14/2004 10:12:14 AM PST by stig
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To: aculeus
Best news I have heard all day. These career civil servants are not suited for asymmetrical warfare which has been used against this country and our worldwide assets for at least 2 decades. Clean house Director Porter!
64 posted on 11/14/2004 10:50:48 AM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Rome2000

LOL! You got me there.


65 posted on 11/14/2004 11:20:18 AM PST by rabidralph (Your car's not as cool in person as it is on TV.)
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To: silverleaf
The fact that these guys would leak this suggests why Goss doesn't trust them.

Damn right, the headline should have been
"Goss won't meet with weasals. Weasals upset."

66 posted on 11/14/2004 11:58:12 AM PST by glorgau
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To: Diana in Wisconsin
Uh, actually two decades, divided by 4 men, means they average only 5 years apiece. Hence, they ARE Xlintonoids...and rookies at that. Elevated far beyond their experience.

If they are in fact almost 2-decade veterans, that means they joined up during the Reagan Administration, and they must have been a problem right along. Too bad Wm Casey died when he did. He would have cleaned out the bad hires in the analysis section once he had started seeing signs of disloyalty and liberal treachery. So these guys really must have got a free pass during the Bush I administration, before Woolsey could clean house, and then it appears they were PROMOTED all during the Xlinton administration... Then allowed to persist and fester under the "live & let live" benign laissez-faire policy of GBW, i.e., he ignored their legal breaches as a compassionate conservative as he let their patron angel...life-long democrat George Tenet... hold-over until August '04. Tenet MUST have been the one defending these cretins.

I believe that George Tenet was almost the death of GBW's presidency. If any body thinks he really was so loyal to GBW, explain all these traitors he did nothing about running around right under his nose.

I guess I am waiting for a defender of the "loyal Tenet" persuasion to explain how it was that he never warned the new administration, GWB, Condi Rice, Donald Rumsfeld, etc... about Al-Queada's Operation Bojinka (where they planned to use hijacked passenger jets as weapons to attack buildings in the U.S. back in '95! )

I never bought the line that he was "loyal" to GWB. His loyalty was to the Xlintons.

67 posted on 11/14/2004 12:01:06 PM PST by Paul Ross (When you're not the lead dog, your view never changes...)
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To: Paul Ross

That's exactly what I meant. Thank you for expounding upon my Readers' Digest Condensed Version! :)


68 posted on 11/14/2004 12:44:26 PM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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To: IStillBelieve
"So if Goss purges all the senior personnel, from where will he obtain experienced replacements?"

Senior personnel only means that they've been there longer than other staff members. It doesn't mean they are any better at the job. They would eventually be replaced by others moving up the career ladder anyway. I'm not sure if the CIA uses exams to promote individuals, but that really doesn't matter. I'm sure there are more than enough experienced individuals who can fill their positions. Sometimes when people are in a position too long, they become complacent and lazy. They just want to keep the status quo so they can make it to retirement without having to bust their hump anymore. Promoting new blood will be a plus because you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

69 posted on 11/14/2004 1:07:23 PM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: Casloy
"Anyone who came on board during the Clinton era would not have enough seniority to be a significan player in the CIA."

Certainly not those who were hired during the Clinton terms, but those that were promoted via Tenet (Clinton's man), could definitely be in a position to be significant players.

70 posted on 11/14/2004 1:09:04 PM PST by mass55th ("If I were two faced, would I be wearing this one?"----Abe Lincoln (1809-1865))
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To: Rome2000

"By invading a country that’s regarded as the second holiest place in Islam, he asserts, the Bush administration inadvertently validated bin Laden’s assertions that the United States intends a holy war against Muslims."

By bombing Pearl Harbor the Japanese "inadvertently" validated the US's assertions that Japan intends a war against Americans.

On 9/11/2001 the muslims "inadvertently" validated the US's suspicion the muslims intend a war against Americans.

WTF kind of national defense would this CIA analyst have for the USA? One which cleverly avoids war, even when we are attacked.

Neville Chamberlain already tried that one.


71 posted on 11/14/2004 1:22:07 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Wolfstar; Shermy
It is a management rule of thumb that:

...Show "purges" displace middle management.

...Serious purges remove senior management.

The CIA has proven itself less than competent, leaky, unprofessional and over-politicized.

Goss is serious. And good for him.

72 posted on 11/14/2004 1:24:00 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: MEG33

Exactly! Four leaks identified!


73 posted on 11/14/2004 1:26:20 PM PST by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: aculeus

Best I can tell is Porter Goss is trying to get rid of the East Coast/Ivy League/NYTimes types that are in leadership roles.

Goss is from Florida. GW is from Texas. The patriotic southerners and westerners will be put in charge. Get rid of the values neutral lawyer types that come out with mush like "one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter"


74 posted on 11/14/2004 1:29:51 PM PST by dennisw (G_D - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: aculeus

This purge looks like GW's vengeance on a disloyal CIA. A disloyal CIA that took it's gripes to the press and tried to sabotage Bush's re-election efforts.


75 posted on 11/14/2004 1:33:06 PM PST by dennisw (G_D - against Amelek for all generations.)
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To: dennisw

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/1279781/posts
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76 posted on 11/14/2004 1:37:20 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: aculeus

Goss is trying to purge the CIA of those people who have been waging war against President Bush and the White House by making selective leaks to the press. These traitors in the CIA leaked to the press things during the campaign to get the Prez defeated and elect their fellow traitor, Kerry.

Goss is doing the right thing and these creeps are feeling the payback from the White House.

The President has to have complete faith in the intelligence community to protect us. He cannot tolerate an arrogant, disloyal CIA. Our lives depend on it.

The Washington Post and NYT and others are squealing like stuffed pigs because it looks like their "unnamed intelligence sources" are getting the ax (which they richly deserve).


77 posted on 11/14/2004 2:04:33 PM PST by nightowl
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To: aculeus
It is possible however that Goss and his people are too heavy-handed and are unnecessarily antagonizing some of the good people.

Possible, but unlikely. Check out the names of the "journalists" responsible for this report. If their sources are getting the cold shoulder then Goss is doing good!

78 posted on 11/14/2004 2:07:11 PM PST by Stultis
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To: aculeus

For an organization that prides itself on its' secrecy, there sure have been a lot of loose lips!


79 posted on 11/14/2004 2:10:01 PM PST by airborne (God bless and keep our fallen heroes.)
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To: mass55th

The DCI has little to do with promotions outside of the senior positions in the different Directorates. Besides, Tenet was never really Clinton's man. Clinton appointed him but their relationship was never that good. Until the last months of his tenure Tenet had a very good relationship with Bush.


80 posted on 11/14/2004 2:17:44 PM PST by Casloy
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