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PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY
A 2004 pro-life thread brought back to life | 11-13-04 | Vicomte13

Posted on 11/13/2004 6:05:41 AM PST by cpforlife.org

PRO-LIFE WARNING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

We believe that abortion is infanticide, and that a holocaust of infants is taking place. We do not believe that there is any other issue on Earth that compares with abortion in moral import. And therefore, there is no policy or combination of policies you Republicans can offer, including perfect tax policies, tort reform, and every other thing that is near and dear to Republican hearts, that matters a damn if abortion is overlooked and allowed to slide by.

We know that this issue has to be settled in the Supreme Court, nowhere else. And we know that the opportunity to put new justices on the court comes once in a decade, maybe, and that the current opportunity to alter the complexion of the court is not going to come again for a generation. Therefore, the real possibility exists that abortion can finally be seriously curtailed, soon, by the Supreme Court changing Roe v. Wade or eliminating it...IF, and ONLY IF, we can get pro-life judges on that court.

To do that, we have trusted the Republicans for years. We just came out and voted for you again this time, in unprecedented numbers, because we are not stupid and we know what is at stake. Not just evangelicals either. The religious CATHOLIC vote went Republican in 2004, and they didn't do it because of trade policy or even gay marriage. Their issue is abortion.

And the overriding issue is abortion.

So, if the Republicans allow Senator Specter to get the Chair of the Judiciary Committee and he blocks pro-life nominees, or if the Republicans do not use the nuclear option to override Democrat filibusters of pro-life nominees, THIS TIME there is no place for Republicans to hide. WE KNOW that you have the power, now, because WE just voted to give it to you. We understand that you can block Specter. And we understand the nuclear option.

And therefore, we most certainly will understand that if you allow the pro-life judges to be blocked, that it will be your political CHOICE to have done so. You CAN put pro-life judges on the bench, if you expend a lot of political capital. This will offend some people - a lot of people. And that is the price you HAVE to pay to get our votes next time. You have to be willing to bet the whole house to end infanticide.

If not, we will not vote for you. We won't go running to vote for the Democrats: they're pro-abortion. We won't go out and form a third party: we're not stupid and know that won't work. We'll just stay home, just like we did in 2000. Except that in 2000 it was out of frustration and neglect, and the lack of belief that anything will change. There was no organized campaign to keep the pro-life vote home in 2000.

This time, it's different. We understand the system, and we know that you have the power. And we demand that you use the power straight down the line to fill the high court and the appellate courts with judges who will protect the lives of babies. Period. This is not negotiable. At all. This is why we voted for you. You have nothing with which to bargain with us, and if you screw us, we will stay organized and we will stay home purposely to destroy the Republican party. Because if you do not protect the babies when you have the power to do it, you are no better than the Democrats...and worse, you will have lied to us.

This means, in effect, that all of those things YOU care most about: taxation, immigration, trade and business policy, deregulation - all of those core issues that come as an economic package, are held hostage to our issue: babies. If you will not protect the babies, we will stay home and let the Democrats destroy everything that YOU believe in.

This is called "Chicken". It is called a "Mexican Standoff". And since we are fired up by the certitude that we are doing God's work in defending babies, we cannot be bought, and you cannot win so much as an election for dog catcher in this country without us.

Therefore, the solution is simple and obvious: give us what we voted for you to do. Give us pro-life judges. Use all of your power to do it. Sweep Specter out of the way: is he worth losing all the rest of your agenda? - because we really will stay home and throw the country to the Democrats if you're no better than they are on abortion, just to punish YOU for having betrayed us. When the filibusters come, and they will come, use the nuclear option to override them. That will poison the Senate, yes. So what? We are talking about babies here. And with our votes, militantly mobilized because we are winning, alongside of yours, in 2006 and 2008 and beyond, even if the Senate is poisoned, you will be able to replace it with a more Republican one.

That there is even a debate going on as to what to do with Specter is alarming, but we have had our hearts broken before, so we'll sit and pray and trust President Bush and Senator Frist and the Republicans to do the right thing.

Screw us, though, and we will turn on you and your whole agenda will go down the drain with the blood of the babies you wouldn't put your power on the line to save.

The easy solution, the win-win solution, is to BE as pro-life as you campaigned as being. Just do it.

I apologize for the length of this post. But it needed to be said. The Republicans do not seem to get it. They need to understand that we are more committed to saving babies than we are to the fortunes of the Republican Party. That Specter is still in play demonstrates that too many of them do not take this seriously.

Rather than test us, what you guys should do is simply cave, now, and give us what we want. Do that, and you wont hear from us again - there will be no creeping theocracy in America - because this is about the only religious issue that Catholics and Orthodox and Evangelicals AGREE on.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: elections; gop; prolife
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To: The Red Zone; All

I was so happy that values was listed AMONG the reasons Bush was reelected. I was thrilled that Americans were actually turning away from the leftist abortion on demand, anything goes morality, etc. Then along comes this thread. I am appalled to say the least at the big heads some got from this victory. It does not do the pro life movement any favors.


1,021 posted on 11/13/2004 10:53:16 PM PST by ladyinred (Congratulations President Bush! Four more years!)
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To: The Red Zone
"The point is they don't stay 15 million. They grow. You think Libertarians are a nightmare..."

Perhaps you should check their "growth" over the last four elections.

1,022 posted on 11/13/2004 10:53:44 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: hocndoc

If the USSC strikes down Roe, which I doubt will ever happen, the states will simply pick up their responsibilities.

Abortion is never going to be outlawed in this country again, no matter how much we might want it to be.


1,023 posted on 11/13/2004 10:54:18 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: The Red Zone
This is what he said: "Every child, born and unborn, protected in law and welcomed into life."

Nowhere does it say "gut Roe."

1,024 posted on 11/13/2004 10:54:22 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

Your nastiness necessitates a certain degree of nastiness.

It's interesting that you associate yourself with the term 'pro-death Republican' by taking offense.


1,025 posted on 11/13/2004 10:55:02 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: CWOJackson

That was my point, how would you like something which is annoying like the Libertarians, but which actually grows?


1,026 posted on 11/13/2004 10:55:50 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: EternalVigilance
Your nastiness necessitates a certain degree of nastiness.

Oh, I see; by not agreeing with you, Your Holiness, I'm nasty.

It's interesting that you associate yourself with the term 'pro-death Republican' by taking offense.

You're a damn liar, EV.

1,027 posted on 11/13/2004 10:56:31 PM PST by Howlin (I love the smell of mandate in the morning.)
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To: Howlin

Well either Roe is gutted, or Roe guts it. That's how Roe works. Roe is the umbrella for partial birth abortion.


1,028 posted on 11/13/2004 10:56:42 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Howlin

If "every child, born and unborn, (were) protected in law and welcomed into life", Roe would obviously have to be an atrocity of the past.

Your claim otherwise is nonsensical.


1,029 posted on 11/13/2004 10:57:17 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: Howlin
the states will simply pick up their responsibilities

Yes and many will restrict it far more severely than they are allowed to now because of the Gummint Grannies like you.

1,030 posted on 11/13/2004 10:58:06 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Howlin
"It's none of your damn business."

You're so predictable!

Actually, I don't care what you call yourself, Howlin. Your actions, in support of abortion, are all that matter.

1,031 posted on 11/13/2004 10:59:26 PM PST by Artist (Abortion is domestic violence)
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To: The Red Zone

I agree.


1,032 posted on 11/13/2004 10:59:48 PM PST by cgk (The Left was beaten by Pres Bush twice & will never have another shot at him... who's dumb?)
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To: cpforlife.org

Straight, and to the point, I agree wholeheartedly, infanticide should not be negotiated with RINOs.


1,033 posted on 11/13/2004 11:00:15 PM PST by diss-a-lib (God is a comedian, with an audience that refuses to laugh.)
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To: The Red Zone
"That was my point, how would you like something which is annoying like the Libertarians, but which actually grows?"

The same threat made by the Reform Party, LP and CP.

1,034 posted on 11/13/2004 11:00:21 PM PST by CWOJackson
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To: cpforlife.org

Agreed


1,035 posted on 11/13/2004 11:00:29 PM PST by swilhelm73 (I voted for Bush. You're welcome.)
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To: Howlin

The GOP is not a human being. Like our government, it is only the combined strength of the individual human beings whose rights it is to protect. Actually it's the combined strength of the voters, a subset of the first group.

I would not vote for any President who advocated for the infringement of any of our inalienable rights. I wouldn't donate or campaign for any Party that had a pro-abortion platform anymore than I would support one that advocated slavery.


1,036 posted on 11/13/2004 11:00:48 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: ladyinred
Then along comes this thread.

SOMETHING has got to put the boots to the ground in pursuit of what the majority of AMERICANS (let alone GOP voters) want. You have a "moderate" plan which cuts back on Roe (as it would have to in order to make any headway)? Well, show it to us, beyond "well trust Specter to do the right thing."

1,037 posted on 11/13/2004 11:00:51 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: CWOJackson
"I need to take some time off and do a real close look at all the threads since the election. It would be nice to see just how many base(s) elected the President, how many individual groups and/or people he owes the election to exclusively, and how many of them are demanding their way or else?"

The GOP is going to deliver and spend the capital that we gave them to do it, that's what...we have made clear why we show up, our position is clear - as WAS the GOP 'leadership' - so we worked, spent, spent, worked and voted - for the GOP, again. Betrayal or effective non-delivery-delivery would be catastrophic at this point to the Conservative Movement - precisely the aim of RINOS, RATS, THE UN, THE NYTLATABBCNNBCBS, THE EU and most of the world in general. That's called a Party that don't care or don't need/want the base to me. You want a new base, GO FIND IT! GOP - GO FOR IT - "What a tangled web we weave when our aim is to deceive...". I hope this is all being handled behind the scenes to create a positive, win-win outcome for America and the Conservative's first choice, the GOP.
1,038 posted on 11/13/2004 11:01:49 PM PST by ApesForEvolution ("We trust [RINO-BORKING-ABORTER] Sen. Arlen spRectum's word" - "IF spRectum gets the Chair, IF")
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To: CWOJackson

As I recall, Ross Perot did a nice job of showing the GOP that it had feet of clay.


1,039 posted on 11/13/2004 11:01:54 PM PST by The Red Zone
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To: Howlin
"Abortion is never going to be outlawed in this country again, no matter how much we might want it to be." You do realize that abortion of one form or another has been legal throughout our nations history, don't you? I'd be ecstatic if we could get to where there were abortions only for pregnancies younger than twenty weeks and only for Life of the mother, rape and incest, though I cannot support why a child alive in a womb ought to be held capitally responsible for the heinous crime by his or her father ... among other anomolies. IF our nation could go that far to reduce abortions, technology and education would kick in to allow even a rape victim to life support the little one until he or she would be able to live outside the womb with public life support.
1,040 posted on 11/13/2004 11:03:08 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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