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Black Americans must stop voting as a monolith
The Dallas Morning News / The Manhattan Institute ^ | November 9, 2004 | John H Mc Whorter

Posted on 11/12/2004 8:53:44 PM PST by Stoat

Edited on 11/12/2004 9:10:14 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

So much for polls that had President Bush getting twice as many black votes as he did in 2000. In 2000 he got 8 percent of the black vote. This time, he got only 11 percent. Eighty-eight percent of the black vote went to John Kerry.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: africanamericans; blacks; blackvote; johnmcwhorter; mcwhorter; race; voting
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1 posted on 11/12/2004 8:53:44 PM PST by Stoat
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To: mhking; rdb3

Ping


2 posted on 11/12/2004 8:55:09 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Stoat
For the record, President Bush did not get my vote. I voted for John Kerry because that's what my personal take on issues and priorities led me to do.

My head is hurting.

3 posted on 11/12/2004 8:55:59 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

4 posted on 11/12/2004 8:59:54 PM PST by Stoat
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To: Fiddlstix

Bush got 16%-18%(depending on the exit poll) of the black vote in Ohio and Voinovich got a third. Progress comes in small steps but we're moving in the right direction.


5 posted on 11/12/2004 9:00:16 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Stoat
"The days when helping blacks was front and center on the government's agenda are gone. We have to start playing ball the old-fashioned way."

This guys double talk is FRUSTRATING for sure.

6 posted on 11/12/2004 9:05:19 PM PST by goodnesswins (Tax cuts, Tax reform, social security reform, Supreme Court, etc.....the next 4 years.....)
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To: Stoat
For one thing, a great many black people associate the Republican Party with racism.

Here's the nub of the matter right there. WHY do blacks associate the Republican Party with racism? Because Democrats told them so?

Even if you want to forget Abraham Lincoln and emancipation as ancient history, who the devil do they think all those southern politicians were who enforced the Jim Crow laws and sent in the police with water cannons and attack dogs? Republicans? Not a one of them. They were all Democrats. There wasn't a Republican politician in the south before the civil rights crisis.

This guy may have written a book, but he has a very poor understanding of history and a regretable habit of drawing his knowledge of his own past from the Democrat propaganda machine.

7 posted on 11/12/2004 9:09:02 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Stoat
We become the Democrats' mascots, instead of a force to be grappled with.

This coming from the confused black author/mascot who admitted he voted for Kerry, but could not come up with a single reason.

Oddly enough, he was able to give TWO reasons that he COULD have voted for Dubya Bush.

8 posted on 11/12/2004 9:09:08 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Stoat

Military members voted overwelmingly for Bush. How did black military members vote I wonder?


9 posted on 11/12/2004 9:10:22 PM PST by Nateman (The enemies of reason are allies of evil.)
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To: jwalsh07
Bush got 16%-18%(depending on the exit poll) of the black vote in Ohio and Voinovich got a third. Progress comes in small steps but we're moving in the right direction.

The dems have a virtual lock on the black vote now, but it won't last forever--such high support is unsustainable in the long term, the numbers can only get better for us; whereas it can only get worse for the opposition. Unless some sea-changing event occurs to split them from the dems, it'll probably take a generation or two.

10 posted on 11/12/2004 9:11:05 PM PST by gop_gene
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To: Nateman
"Military members voted overwelmingly for Bush. How did black military members vote I wonder?"

I haven't seen any statistics pertaining to your question, but my guess is that there will likely be much less difference between races in terms of voting patterns of military members, as they consider themselves to be all on the same team and are much less likely to look at life through the distorted lens of race.

Something that the rest of the world could stand to learn.

11 posted on 11/12/2004 9:15:23 PM PST by Stoat
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To: vbmoneyspender
" For the record, President Bush did not get my vote. I voted for John Kerry because that's what my personal take on issues and priorities led me to do."

Let's see...... this Plantation Dem voted:

1. for the party that wants to lock African-American students into inferior public schools.....

2. for the party that wants to deny the family wealth-building opportunities of Social Security reform would provide......

3. for the party that wants to preserve the current Social Security system, in which African-Americans receive significantly less in benefits than whites who make the same pay......

4. for the party that wants to weaken traditional family structure......

5. for the party that insists on total abortion access....

6. for the party that largely opposes freedom and liberty for Saddam's 27 million slaves....

I wonder what Democratic party values this guy really likes? Maybe he just enjoys riding around in the back of the Plantation bus.

12 posted on 11/12/2004 9:34:34 PM PST by cookcounty (-It's THE WHITE HOUSE, not THE WAFFLE HOUSE.)
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To: Stoat

In Texas and Ohio he got about 17%


13 posted on 11/12/2004 9:38:53 PM PST by GeronL (http://images7.fotki.com/v125/photos/2/215708/780411/reow-vi.jpg?1100155138)
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To: Stoat
For the record, President Bush did not get my vote. I voted for John Kerry because that's what my personal take on issues and priorities led me to do. But a lot more than 11 percent of us might find that Republicans have important things to offer us as well. Faith-based initiatives come to mind, as does education reform.

what a hypocrite! here is an african american questing other african americans about voting democratic, but then saying that he himself voted democratic?!

this man needs an education: conservatism will provide all mankind with the opportunities necessary to lead a rewarding life. not big government.

14 posted on 11/12/2004 9:43:20 PM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: mhking

heads up...


15 posted on 11/12/2004 9:44:21 PM PST by NewLand (God Bless America and God Bless President Bush!)
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To: cookcounty

I live in an area with a high proportion of blacks and their voting habits amaze me, most of them seem to believe in the same things Republicans believe in and yet they vote Demo. I swear most of them seem to have no idea of what the Democrats are pushing, it is like someone talking about wanting to lose weight and yet they are eating doughnuts by the dozen because someone told them doughnuts are calorie free. One black woman actually told me that John Kerry would be for "the little guy" more than George W. Bush, when I quizzed her it was obvious she had no idea of Kerry's background. When I asked her how a man who grew up hobnobbing with the Kennedys and had divorced a 300 million dollar wife to marry a woman with more than twice that much was going to have any connection to the little man, she just looked confused. She didn't know what state he was from and didn't seem to know that he was a Senator. The scary part is I think she is not really the exception.


16 posted on 11/12/2004 10:05:38 PM PST by RipSawyer ("Embed" Michael Moore with the 82nd airborne.)
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To: Fiddlstix

Screw going for the "black vote", keep fighting for the American Vote! Bush improved. Small but progress. The conservative message does not care what color someone is. We need to find NEW ways to reach people. We should try harder to reach ALL Americans. We need to loosen the grip of liberalism on ALL the Americans.


17 posted on 11/12/2004 10:59:48 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: RipSawyer

Most analyses of the Black vote approach the subject from the point of view of the damage it does to Republican prospects. My thesis is that the wracking pathology and irrationality of about 50% of the Afro-American "community" infects the Democrat Party and renders it unpalatable to the rational elements in America.

In other words, the Dems will not be able to reform themselves until they become rational and their devil's bargain with the Black establishment prevents that.


18 posted on 11/12/2004 11:56:25 PM PST by nathanbedford (Attack, repeat, attack...Bull Halsey)
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To: Stoat
If you look at it from a purely political point of view then screw the black vote and sure up the Hispanic's, there is a real political reason for the worker's program that Bush is proposing. That said if it's passed there needs to be a strong crack done on ILLEGAL IMAGRANTS!
19 posted on 11/13/2004 12:51:23 AM PST by TheTwelvePack
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To: Cicero
Your right on that point it was the republicans who wanted to end slavery not the democrats. And for all of you poor freaked out liberals who weary about the war " and those horrible republican war mongers" It was Nixon who Ended the Vietnam war; Kennedy got into it, and Johnston enlarged it. You left wing nut balls never know what you are talking about; so then you lie,however you can take comfort in one thing. The left wing nut balls in Canada are as goofy as you are. Our Micheal Moore is dumer then yours as a matter of fact he is our prime-minister.
20 posted on 11/13/2004 1:17:13 AM PST by The canadian
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