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Kerry Strategists: Clintonistas Torpedoed Our Campaign
NewsMax.com ^ | Nov. 12, 2004 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/12/2004 10:06:13 AM PST by Carl/NewsMax

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To: Semper Paratus

Yep. I've been saying for a while now that there was a coup de main in progress.


41 posted on 11/12/2004 10:17:36 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (I'm from North Dakota and I'm all FOR Global Warming! Bring it ON!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Knowing they were failing, the Kerrylosers took on the Clintoonistas to have a scape goat.


42 posted on 11/12/2004 10:17:40 AM PST by bert (Peace is only halftime !)
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To: nikos1121
We also learn that Kerry was basically running things.

These thick-headed wonks miss the point that it's always about the candidate, not the campaign.

43 posted on 11/12/2004 10:17:49 AM PST by Semper Paratus (Michael)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Clinton tried to make the 92 playbook work again. Too bad for him that W was using the same playbook.


44 posted on 11/12/2004 10:18:02 AM PST by My Favorite Headache (Absalom, Absalom, Absalom....)
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To: All

Oh please.

Kerry got more votes than Clinton or Gore. The Dems turned out their base.

The unspoken secret is that it turned out our base is larger than theirs.

IF the Clinton's wanted to torpedo Kerry, and I'm not saying they didn't, this election proved they don't hold sway over the majority of their base because they turned out in spite of the Clinton's wishes.


45 posted on 11/12/2004 10:18:50 AM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: nikos1121

disagree. Kerry had no choice but switch the focus from domestic issues to the war, as the "always reliable polls" were saying that americans were more worried about it.


46 posted on 11/12/2004 10:18:58 AM PST by angelanddevil2
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To: rotstan
"Anyone want to guess how long it will be before they get to the Jews?"

One of the Heinz boys, Chris, I think, has already gone down that road.

47 posted on 11/12/2004 10:19:02 AM PST by Bahbah (Proud member of the pajamahadeen)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

This excuse isn't enough. Even when they did talk about national security, all they did was complain. If they had another vision of leadership I certainly didn't see it.


48 posted on 11/12/2004 10:20:04 AM PST by TFine80 (Patton's Son: "There's no soap ever been invented that can wash that blood off his hands.")
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To: Carl/NewsMax
I don't give the Clintonista's this much credit.

I really believe, when it came down to it--when people got in the booth--they thought about Septmeber 11th, the impending Islamic problem and they voted for Bush.

I'd be willing to wager, many more people than would ever come forward--pulled the lever for Bush.

49 posted on 11/12/2004 10:23:24 AM PST by riri
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To: Southack
A bad Presidential ticket with old ideas isn't going to beat a qualified Presidential team with innovative new ideas. Ain't gonna happen.

the kerry campaign reminded me of the movie "who's minding the mint?"

50 posted on 11/12/2004 10:24:05 AM PST by mlocher (america is a sovereign state)
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To: Carl/NewsMax

This sounds like a Kerry supporter KYA. Fact is, nobody couldn make a silk purse out of a sows ear when it came to Kerry. He had no leadership skills, a poor Congressional record, a worse war record and did not know how to tell the truth. Once the American public started recieving information about the real Kerry via alternate news sources the mainstream media could no longer sell Kerry as the candidate he was not.


51 posted on 11/12/2004 10:24:18 AM PST by caisson71
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To: Carl/NewsMax

couuntdown to irreversible implosion has begun....

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52 posted on 11/12/2004 10:24:48 AM PST by wack-m and stack-m (DONE AND DONE!)
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To: All

Rush is Freepin' again. First the mannequin story, now this one.


53 posted on 11/12/2004 10:25:55 AM PST by CAluvdubya (From the RED part of California)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
bwahahahaha. blame, blame, blame, blame, blame. couldn't possibly be that Kerry is a loser, could it?

bwahahahahaha.

54 posted on 11/12/2004 10:26:22 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (if a man lives long enough, he gets to see the same thing over and over.)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Sorry to disagree, but the Clintonistas did exactly what Bill&Hill wanted: prevent sKerry from winning to set up The Hildabeaste for 2008.
55 posted on 11/12/2004 10:27:09 AM PST by upchuck (Pajamas? I don' need no steenking pajamas!!)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
We could have told them this from the beginning.

All democrats, (and RINOs) are snakes and can't be trusted.
56 posted on 11/12/2004 10:27:43 AM PST by Delphinium
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To: Carl/NewsMax
This is standard Monday morning quarterbacking. Kerry was a defective product so far as character and leadership went. Had his team focused on his personal qualities they would have lost anyway, and people would be asking "Why didn't he talk more about the economy?"

Looking back, it doesn't seem to me as though Kerry did center his campaign on economic questions. His campaign was not dominated by "it's the economy stupid" or "are you better off now that you were four years ago." It does look as though in some way he wasn't there in the later stages of the campaign, that is, he didn't seem to have much of a focus at all. But such focus as there was looks to have been more Iraq and alliances than jobs and wages.

This is a case of "don't take their advice, and then blame them anyway.

57 posted on 11/12/2004 10:28:27 AM PST by x
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To: upchuck

Why dose kerry wait until after the election to try to think.


58 posted on 11/12/2004 10:28:45 AM PST by jocko12
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To: Carl/NewsMax

Gee..we could have told them that back when Kerry won the primaries.


59 posted on 11/12/2004 10:29:04 AM PST by Blue Scourge (Off I go into the Wild Blue Yonder...)
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To: Carl/NewsMax
Top strategists with John Kerry's presidential campaign are blaming his crushing defeat last week on bad advice from Clinton operatives who took over the campaign after Labor Day.

Exactly who said they had to take their advice?

60 posted on 11/12/2004 10:29:17 AM PST by nosofar
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