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THE INCREDIBLES

Posted on 11/12/2004 6:32:48 AM PST by 7thson

I know that a thread already talked about this movie but I wanted to start a fresh one.

Saw The Incredibles yesterday with my wife and grandkids.

First, I really enjoyed it. I thought it was extremely witty and well-written.

Second – and a pleasant surprise – were the hidden messages that jumped right out and grabbed me. I read someone stated that the movie was a metaphor on America and the WOT. I not only agree but the whole movie was about America and its place in the world.

Mr. Incredible is America. So sure in his mission, so right in his purpose, so confidant in his role in life and on the world stage. He can go it alone; he will accept help but does not need nor request it. The one criminal Bomb Voyage is so much like France. Upon immediate confrontation quickly surrenders and yet so slimy and despicable to even cause possible harm to a child to get its way. The failed suicide is society at large, blaming America for everything. Mr. Incredible states that he save his life and the guy shouts back you ruined my death. Society wants people to die but the message of America is life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Society gangs up and forces Mr. Incredible/America and the rest of the heroes/democratic nations to retire from the world scene. He is seen in an office, miserable and impotent, knowing he can do incredible things and yet society stops him from being what he is. Under his nose the rest of the heroes are being killed off – western nations under the threat of Islam. He sees the mugger and so desperately wants to right the wrong but his boss/UN stops him. When he does return, he is seen as fat and sloppy but still able to get the job done. Scenes in the movie –

When everyone is super than no one is.

These people have no qualms on killing children.

You have to act now!

A united front will succeed which leads to the great message –

There is no school like the old school!

Most definitely a movie I want to see several more times which is always the mark of a good film and a great story.


TOPICS: Unclassified; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: america; craigtnelson; edithhead; evil; france; good; incredibles; islam; kerry; moviereview; nixon; waronterror; wot
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1 posted on 11/12/2004 6:32:50 AM PST by 7thson
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To: 7thson

Kids have been bugging me to see it...think I'll give in now...thanks for the reposting as I had not seen the first one...


2 posted on 11/12/2004 6:38:46 AM PST by hilaryrhymeswithrich (Have you thanked a Swiftie today for the election results???)
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Go see it. You will not be disappointed.


3 posted on 11/12/2004 6:43:14 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: 7thson

I liked the way it portrayed the mom and dad as strong authority figures demanding obedience and respect from their kids. Just added to the feeling of euphoria I've had since Election Day.


4 posted on 11/12/2004 6:44:56 AM PST by mrtoby
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To: 7thson

Powder..Patch..Ball FIRE!

Saw it last night with my kids also.... Two freeper thumbs up!!! WE ALL ENJOYED IT!!!!


5 posted on 11/12/2004 6:45:11 AM PST by BallandPowder
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To: 7thson

*Bump*


6 posted on 11/12/2004 6:46:48 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: hilaryrhymeswithrich
You missed one more comparison.

If Mr. Incredible represents America, Mrs. Incredible represent the people.

Mr. Incredible losses his job, (terrorist attack on 9/11) begins to lie to his wife, (evil purposes of Patriot Act, gets work supposedly with government (deceit of war in Iraq), is tied up and tortured (ongoing terrorist response in Iraq, wife finds our about the lie and comes to the rescue. (the people begin to see thru the charade and set the government straight).

Unfortunately, the latter has not happened.

7 posted on 11/12/2004 6:47:16 AM PST by joebellis
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To: 7thson

Great movie! I have a 6 year old and a 11 year old; we laughed and talked ablut the movie the entire drive home. It is a lot of fun!


8 posted on 11/12/2004 6:49:36 AM PST by Taylor (Lambert Field is hallowed ground...)
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To: 7thson

Taking my kids to see this tonight.


9 posted on 11/12/2004 6:51:52 AM PST by The G Man (The "Red States" ... the world's only hope for survival.)
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To: 7thson

Disney (spit!)

Sorry it's a reflex. ;o)


10 posted on 11/12/2004 6:52:25 AM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: joebellis

I think you're kinda reaching there for a few of those comparisons, joebellis, but I suppose with enough effort I can see where you're coming from.

I liked the movie. Little to violent for a kid under six, in my opinion. There's a lot more subtle "adult humor" in this one that I didn't like much-Like the scene where Before Mr. Incredible beats up the van full of guards, you hear one say "Every time one of them runs screaming in terror, we take a shot" then he proceeds to pour champagne. Pixar decided that this would be their "we have to stretch our boundaries movie" and did it well, while staying true to the kid and family friendly premise that has brought them their success.


11 posted on 11/12/2004 6:52:27 AM PST by timtoews5292004
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To: 7thson
Here's one you missed:

Enjoy your children while you can (or it will go by way too fast and you'll miss the chance)

12 posted on 11/12/2004 6:54:34 AM PST by blue jeans
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To: 7thson

Took the family to see it Saturday. It was a great movie and good clean fun for all. Even my 3 year-old son had a good time. Kept talking about the bo-bot (what he calls robot) hours after the movie.


13 posted on 11/12/2004 6:56:13 AM PST by NavyCanDo
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To: Taylor

Saw it last night with my family. Very enjoyable, hadn't thought of the WOT tie. My favorite character was the daughter, Violet. In the beginning she is introverted and afraid (whoever voiced her character did a marvelous job), and at first is unable/unwilling to use her powers. However, SHE is the one who is able to escape the electric chains (don't want to give away too much) and rescue her family! Her transformation at the end of the movie into a confident young lady is beautiful to see.


14 posted on 11/12/2004 6:56:27 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: 7thson

It's a great movie, but the allegorical references you mention are a bit of a stretch. See it for what it is: a fun and entertaining movie, but leave the WOT references aside. I don't think this movie is some vindication of America and its role as world hero.


15 posted on 11/12/2004 6:56:54 AM PST by VRWCmember ("The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left." Eccl. 10:2)
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To: BigCinBigD
Disney (spit!)

Sorry it's a reflex. ;o)

Hey, THAT hadn't occurred to me. Disney coming out with a movie about an intact family???? How did THAT escape the executives notice! :-0

16 posted on 11/12/2004 7:01:11 AM PST by COBOL2Java (If this isn't the End Times it certainly is a reasonable facsimile...)
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To: 7thson

Saw it last night with my son. Great movie. Good story and the animation is extraordinary.


17 posted on 11/12/2004 7:07:45 AM PST by NotSoFreeStater
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To: VRWCmember

I do not go into this movie with this perception in mind. I went for entertainment as all of PIXAR's stuff has been great. As I said, these messages jumped out at me. I am not the only one, if you took time to read this and other threads concerning this movie.


18 posted on 11/12/2004 7:09:08 AM PST by 7thson (I think it takes a big dog to weigh a hundred pounds!)
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To: NotSoFreeStater

Love it! Went though to see the Revenge of the Sith trailer myself!


19 posted on 11/12/2004 7:10:52 AM PST by Sybeck1 (Victory!!)
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To: 7thson

I love the Pixar films. I will be taking the kids to see this tonight.


20 posted on 11/12/2004 7:12:38 AM PST by PleaseNoMore
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