Posted on 11/10/2004 6:07:32 PM PST by wagglebee
ALBANY - New York Republicans don't have a lot of time to bounce back from their drubbing at the polls last week: The race against Senator Clinton is just two years away.
Defeating the former first lady, or at least tarnishing her image, will be a priority for Republicans nationwide in 2006, given Mrs. Clinton's status as the Democrats' early front-runner for president in 2008.
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But do you think they could beat her? Pataki or Giuliani I mean. Give us the NY perspective!
Hell will freeze over before I vote for Pataki.
Regards,
When you look back over the last several decades, the "frontrunner" for a presidential nomination almost never gets it: Dean, McCain, Bradley, Gore (in 88), Hart, Bush (in 80) and the list goes on.
Well either I guess. I meant the Senate seat. If she loses that, her electability as President would fall (I'm not saying she couldn't pull it off, but unlikely). So if she in fact is planning to run for re-eletion then I'd like to know about Giuliani's or Pataki's chances.
Do tell!!
Pal,
We are old Freeper pals and NY-philes, but I am very pessimistic about it.
Hilly carried the day in 'the city' by an absurd margin of 3-1 or so. Rudy may break into that a bit, but I am not sure. His window to do it was back in 2000, but health reasons caused him to bow out. At that point, I pretty much conceded the race to Hilly.
Kerry carried nyc by 3-1 or 4-1 I think. NYC simply just does not get it - from the gum cracking sassy latina secretary or GAP associate, to the crusty working class 'union'' type who puts on his 'nice' sportcoat from time to time to talk down to everyone else, to the terminally lib 'suit' who works on Wall St or a NYC law firm, in the end, it's Hilly country.
9-11 did nothing to shake up these know-it-all NYCers. I have written them off. It's a shame that they will consistently swing the state in these types of matters.
Sorry if I am more jaded than I should be. They are a lost cause.
Hilly is formidable but something tells me she just won't be able to get it together for the 2008 dem primary. I agree with you.
Mary Cheney
The name I've heard the most is Governor George Pataki. And he hasn't ruled it out.
RUDY GIULIANI
I think he would run close enough in NYC, especially Queens (he would win it over Hillary) and Brooklyn to win statewide. Hillary needs those huge margins in the NYC counties to win, any erosion in that, she's toast.
that said, I also predict that if Rudy or Pataki does run, Hillary will just skip the race and move to the presidential run. she cannot afford to take the risk of losing, if she does, her presidential bid is toast. so I don't think we will even see a Rudy v Hillary senate race.
but if course, I could be wrong.
"You don't think Rudy could beat Hillary??"
Oh no, you misunderstand, I certainly do think he could beat her, or just about anybody, with a stick!
But I think he might be thinking he could win the really BIG prize, the presidency, and he won't want to try for a lower office. He's not that young, you know. He may want to shoot for the moon.
Pataki is OK. what kind of republicans do you expect to have in this state with the demographics? Pataki's own republican senate is over-riding his budget vetoes, what do you want the man to do?
i think Rudy will run for Governor and Pataki for Senate - i dont see Pataki winning but i guess it is better than nothing. as for Rudy it may be tough against Schumer
My guess is that at some point, the "powers that be" in the DNC will realize that they need a nominee that really is strong on defense and they will go with someone like Zell Miller, Lieberman, Gephart or Bayh. I don't agree with Gephart's or Lieberman's domestic policies, but the possibility of having them as Commander in Chief would not have terrified me the way Kerry did. In short, the 'Rats will pick a candidate that most Republicans "could live with."
Much as I despise his RINO policies, Pataki is the best choice. Rudy could take his place in Albany.
Pataki has won 3 statewide races in NY - he's no pushover.
I would put money on Pataki. The stakes would be way to high for Rudy, a loss would finish him.
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