[oceanview]

I think he would run close enough in NYC, especially Queens (he would win it over Hillary) and Brooklyn to win statewide. Hillary needs those huge margins in the NYC counties to win, any erosion in that, she's toast.

that said, I also predict that if Rudy or Pataki does run, Hillary will just skip the race and move to the presidential run. she cannot afford to take the risk of losing, if she does, her presidential bid is toast. so I don't think we will even see a Rudy v Hillary senate race.

but if course, I could be wrong.

[HitmanLV]

I see what you are saying and I am admittedly cynical about this.

Best thing would be Hilly abandons seat, Pataki wins it, and Rudy and Hilly run for their respective party nominations.

I still don't think Hilly has 'it' - while the media and party darling now, my gut tells me she will (amazingly) be challenged for the nomination not from the right of her party, but from the left.

The conventional wisdom for the dems, as I have said since the day after election day, is that they lost big in 2004 because they were not liberal enough. Sounds crazy, but its true! ;-)

[NYCVirago]

I think he would run close enough in NYC, especially Queens (he would win it over Hillary) and Brooklyn to win statewide. Hillary needs those huge margins in the NYC counties to win, any erosion in that, she's toast.

And Rudy would win SI too, of course. Even when Lazio ran against Hillary, and Staten Island went for Gore, Hillary still lost Staten Island.

[TBP]

I also predict that if Rudy or Pataki does run, Hillary will just skip the race and move to the presidential run. she cannot afford to take the risk of losing, if she does, her presidential bid is toast. so I don't think we will even see a Rudy v Hillary senate race.

So Nita Lowey finally gets her turn?