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Blue States Buzz Over Secession
The Washington TImes ^ | November 9 , 2004 | Joseph Curl

Posted on 11/09/2004 6:07:51 PM PST by GaryL

Secession, which didn't work very well when it was tried once before, is suddenly red hot in the blue states. In certain precincts, anyway. One popular map circulating on the Internet shows the 19 blue states won by Sen. John Kerry -- Washington, Oregon, California, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Illinois, Maryland and the Northeastern states -- conjoined with Canada to form the "United States of Canada." The 31 red states carried by Mr. Bush are depicted as a separate nation dubbed "Jesusland."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bluestates; bushwins; civilwar2; civilwarii; cluelessness; commieseperatists; democratinsanity; dramaqueens; federalcrime; kerrydefeat; redstates; secession; sedition; separatists; traitorslose
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To: LTCJ
OK.

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321 posted on 11/10/2004 2:08:58 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: Mukor
LOL!

should we CSA folks THEN issue "damnyankee hunting licenses"?????

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322 posted on 11/10/2004 2:23:41 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: jimthewiz
also LOL!

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323 posted on 11/10/2004 2:27:40 PM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: GaryL
This is more of the media hyping Sore-Loserman big-city loudmouths. It's a good thing they're free to leave the USA, 'cause they sure don't have the balls or ability to fight for secession. Any talk of secession by the "blue" states, needs to be considered in light of the county map:


324 posted on 11/10/2004 2:28:38 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Hat-Trick

And by the way, this message was proudly brought to you from Nebraska, the REDDEST of the Red states. ;-0


325 posted on 11/10/2004 2:33:34 PM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Hat-Trick
!!!!!!

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326 posted on 11/11/2004 7:39:26 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: texasmountainman

>Kerry won cities, not states

Remember the movie "Escape From New York" and the sequel "Escape From L.A."

The big cities were turned into compounds. All the criminals were dumped in there. Then they were surrounded by security fences so nobody could leave. Within the compound they had "self rule". Of course it was little more than survival of the fittest and the most brutal, but hey, if that is what the liberals really want, who would we be to object...


327 posted on 11/11/2004 7:46:25 AM PST by cgbg
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To: stand watie

I must correct myself. It appears that Utah and Oklahoma are also states that have NO blue counties. Hopefully Nebrasaka will be "redder" than Oklahoma this Saturday, but it ain't looking good. I think our Huskers might come away with a "redder" backside.


328 posted on 11/11/2004 11:27:57 AM PST by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: Hat-Trick
HIGHLY likely!

i fear OU is headed for #1 & my beloved UT will NOT find herself in a major bowlgame.

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329 posted on 11/12/2004 8:07:17 AM PST by stand watie ( being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: GaryL

Blue states are really blue cities. If you combine data on voter preference by income level (from exit poll data) and percent of taxes paid by income level (income, payroll, and excise taxes from IRS data), you find that Bush voters pay 57% of the taxes and Kerry voters pay 42% of the taxes.

% of taxes paid
Under $15,000 - 1.2%
$15,000-$29,999 - 4.3%
$30,000-$49,999 - 11.0%
$50,000-$74,999 - 14.6%
$75,000-$99,999 - 13.9%
$100,000-$199,999 - 23.3%
$200,000 or more - 31.7%

% voting for Bush
Under $15,000 - 36%
$15,000-$29,999 - 42%
$30,000-$49,999 - 49%
$50,000-$74,999 - 56%
$75,000-$99,999 - 55%
$100,000-$199,999 - 57%
$200,000 or more - 63%

For each income level, multiplying (% of taxes paid) X (% voting for Bush), gives you

% of taxes paid by Bush voters
Under $15,000 - 0.4%
$15,000-$29,999 - 1.8%
$30,000-$49,999 - 5.4%
$50,000-$74,999 - 8.2%
$75,000-$99,999 - 7.6%
$100,000-$199,999 - 13.3%
$200,000 or more - 20.0%

For a total of 57% of taxes paid by Bush voters. You can do the same exercise for Kerry and see that he gets 42%.

Exit poll source: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/US/P/00/epolls.0.html
Tax data source: http://www.house.gov/jct/x-2-01.pdf


330 posted on 11/21/2004 2:19:27 PM PST by The Numbers Guy
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To: GaryL

So what are we going to do about the counties in blue states that want to secede from the oppressive blue states they belong to? Case in point: Erie County in New York.

New York is losing thousands of people each month. Just about everyone has a 5 year plan: to get out!


331 posted on 03/29/2005 8:25:57 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: eleni121

You win today's prize for responding to an old thread. Did you just find out that Kerry lost, too?


332 posted on 03/29/2005 8:28:24 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: CJ Wolf

I had no idea we could not post to older threads. Is that a rule here or just something you made up of whole cloth?

In any case, go bother somebody else.


333 posted on 03/29/2005 8:31:04 PM PST by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: GaryL

Liberals can't wipe their butt right, their only hope is to parasite the United States as long as the RINOs allow them to.. Succession is a wet dream of a poodle..


334 posted on 03/29/2005 8:42:57 PM PST by hosepipe (This propaganda has been ok'ed by me to included some fully orbed hyperbole....)
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To: eleni121

Never said it was a rule, Have a good day.


335 posted on 03/29/2005 9:12:06 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: GaryL
The ironic thing is that they need to realize that Canada's western and eastern provinces would most likely join the so-called 'Jesus-land' states. Just the middle provinces Quebec and Ottawa are certifiable blue 'states.
336 posted on 03/29/2005 9:15:18 PM PST by Stand Watch Listen (;)
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To: eleni121

Thanks for the funny reminder! :) What an election, eh? :) God Bless America!


337 posted on 03/29/2005 10:08:09 PM PST by PureSolace (A Conservative bases his politics from his morals, and a Liberal bases his morals from his politics.)
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To: GaryL

It has been a dream of long standing that NYC would secede from NY state........... ;)


338 posted on 03/29/2005 10:11:55 PM PST by tioga
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To: tioga

I'd like to see Detroit go to Canada.....


339 posted on 03/29/2005 10:15:46 PM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Mama, take this judgeship off of Greer, he can't use it, anymore")
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To: Dan from Michigan

I am a night owl tonight. I am on call.


340 posted on 03/29/2005 10:17:53 PM PST by tioga
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