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Ashcroft & Evans resign
MSNBC

Posted on 11/09/2004 2:50:48 PM PST by USNA74

Reporting that AG Ashcroft and Commerce Sec Don Evans have resigned.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ashcroft; commerce; doj; donevans; evans; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; resignation; wot
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To: USNA74

I don't know much about Evans, other than he is a close friend of the President, but Ashcroft is a noble man who has done wonders, and I will sorely miss him.


361 posted on 11/09/2004 5:46:00 PM PST by alwaysconservative (This election was a repudiation of the Bush-haters. Get over it.)
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To: Crimson Elephant
Ashcroft would never get through the Senate for a judge..the media would make the C.Thomas hearings look like Sponge Bob reruns.

LOL and amen. The MSM has painted this guy to look like the second coming of Hitler. Of coarse they are way wrong but a good portion of the American public doesn't know that, although they seem to be learning.

362 posted on 11/09/2004 5:46:32 PM PST by lizma
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To: Verginius Rufus

Ohhhhhhhhhh... I forgot about that.. Thanks for reminding me.. :)


363 posted on 11/09/2004 5:52:22 PM PST by JesseJane ("Hey hey...ho ho...a cowboy, not a gigolo." - I love this... whoever said it!!)
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To: USNA74; All

everybody relax. The liberal mainstream media will try and make a big deal out of this...when it is not.

Evans has been saying...in public...that he wants to get back here to Texas....And we have stuff lined up for him....there are several offices he can run for. Comptroller,etc.
Ashcroft was expected to resign. He came back to work after surgery....way too early. And It has been mentioned many times that he has been exhausted over the past couple of months.

And it is also known that he want to go do legal and speaking work for some conservative cause groups. So he will continue to serve us well.

Ashcroft locked away a lot of terrorists...and stopped a lot of terrorists from attacking us again (YEARS FROM NOW, WHEN THINGS BECOME LESS CLASSIFIED, WE WILL HEAR OF HOW HE SAVED THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS FROM BEING ATTACKED)......He has done well....and he deserves his break. GEN. ASHCROFT WILL GO DOWN AS THE MOST WORTHY ATTY. GEN. EVER!.
Can't blame him for being tired. There was a lot put on him after 9/11. And he performed great.

Everybody that is mentioned to follow him...especially Larry Thompson.....would be a continuation of Ashcroft...which is good to hear.
Thompson campaigned with Bush some in this election...and he is a good ally to the President.

As for Evans......He, like Ashcroft, has done us very proud.
Sec. of Commerce is a window dressing position...YET HE STILL GOT A LOT OF THINGS DONE! Good on him.

And the people named to follow him, like Mercer, are a continuation....and close allies of the President.

So Basically.....its a WIN/WIN deal for us.

I thank Gen. Ashcroft and Sec. Evans for their hard work and loyalty to our President.

AND DON, GET BACK HERE TO TEXAS AND RUN FOR COMPTROLLER!


364 posted on 11/09/2004 5:57:40 PM PST by ArmyBratproud (Kerry wants to steal documents, taxes, my gun, etc. And now the commie punk wants to steal my vote.)
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To: JesseJane
Zacaly.. Mineta's got to go.

Along with Ridge.

I'm reading Ashcroft has pancreatitis. That is a nasty deal and I'm surprised he hasn't left before this.

365 posted on 11/09/2004 5:59:29 PM PST by lizma
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To: Labyrinthos; All

IF Rudy is going to have a cabinet position, my choice is either at the State Department or Homeland Security. The first could use his expertise at cleaning out the trash, and the last plays to his strengths.

I'll miss Ashcroft. A Man that has performed his job honorably with little to no thanks from the Left and SOME on the right. I wish him well, I'll miss him, and thank him for his service.

Mr. Evans, I wish you well and thank you for your service. I'm certain a number of people will be envious of your escape from the madhouse back to the sanity of Texas!


366 posted on 11/09/2004 5:59:49 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: MeekOneGOP


I heard about this from Dan Rather,
who had the audacity to cut-in with
a special announcement during the auction
of some of Oprah's clothing!


367 posted on 11/09/2004 6:07:33 PM PST by onyx
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To: MissouriConservative

Bravo! I have friends that work in certain jobs....and they mention that Ashcroft has saved us from a lot.

I can understand why he is exhausted....even without the surgery....he shouldered a lot....and served us Well.

The folks mentioned to follow he and Evans.....are a continuation of their efforts and vision.....WHICH IS GREAT TO HEAR.

Ashcroft got so much done. Lowered the crime rates...and punched a hole in terrorism. He is a true hero.

And Evans....well...Sec. of Com. is a window dressing job sometimes....and Don still got a lot done.

Now he can come back to Texas...as he has mentioned for weeks now is something he and his family would like to do....and run for Comptroller....or Senator,etc.

I mentioned in an earlier post....the men mentioned to follow these two....continue their vision.....and Ashcroft (with word that he wants to work on some conservative causes now) and Evans(who will do something good for Texas- its just his nature)...will continue to serve us.

WIN/WIN Situation.

I thank them for their service. And I thank Missouri for lending us Gen. Ashcroft for a while. He did not know what was going to be dumped on him with 9/11.....BUT HE PERFORMED LIKE A TRUE HERO AND LEADER.


368 posted on 11/09/2004 6:07:56 PM PST by ArmyBratproud (Ashcroft and Evans served us well....Can't Thank them enough)
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To: ArmyBratproud

Amen!


369 posted on 11/09/2004 6:12:17 PM PST by MEG33 ( Congratulations President Bush!..Thank you God. Four More Years!)
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To: Howlin
Got a nice beat, but you can't dance to it.

I give it a 63!

370 posted on 11/09/2004 6:12:42 PM PST by airborne (Death Before Dishonor)
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To: MEG33
Okay, thanks for the link. For the link-otiose and otherwise technology-challenged, this would seem to be the relevant post from the linked blog:

UPDATE(2/26/2004 1:55pm)
The Austin Chronicle has picked up the story:

Yes, we've heard The Rumor, too. Many, many times. Despite a complete absence of proof, the personal preferences of Gov. Rick Perry have become the talk of this and many other towns. See p.23.

The Real Sins of Gov. Perry

On Tuesday morning, a small group of protesters (almost outnumbered by reporters and photographers) gathered at the Governor's Mansion for what was disingenuously billed as a "support rally" for Gov. Rick Perry, under the theme, "It's OK to Be Gay." As any Austinite with access to e-mail or a cell phone knows by now, for a couple of months rumors concerning the governor's personal life have been flying furiously around the Capitol, the capital city, the state, and indeed most of the Western Hemisphere. The variations are multiple and quite inventive ? we won't recount them here ? but at their core is the tale that the governor's marriage is in trouble, that his wife Anita has/will/may decide to divorce him, and that the issue is Rick's alleged infidelity, with one or another member of his administration of undetermined gender. (Rumors of this sort, about multitudinous politicians, circulate all the time, but the current Perry rumors are indeed extraordinary in their baroque detail and remarkable persistence.)

There's more, but when they looked into the rumors a few weeks ago they found "no evidence of any truth to any of them, whatsoever."

We continue to wait, but at this point it doesn't look like the story is true.

UPDATE(2/27/2004 9:35am)

Other links to Datalounge and other blogs show that the story continues to be believed, quoted, and passed around by various people hostile to the Republican Party (check out the 11/3 Election 2004 thread on Datalounge -- it's funny! [*language warning*]).

Rick Perry did deny the story.......eventually, after trying for weeks and weeks to ignore it. No wonder it snowballed. Rumor control requires prompt response, and the denial never really caught up with the rumor (obviously). But the meeting with the staff of the American-Statesman apparently did happen. So what was that about?

I agree it looks a lot weaker now; at least Perry said "it ain't so", and the Austin Chronicle gives him credit.

I still don't know what to think. I'd still prefer a white paper from the FBI or somebody.

Oh, and another blog entry on the same blog memorialized a story on the political rally that I mentioned. It was a John Edwards for President rally in Houston, and the principal speaker who referenced the story, pointed to signs in the crowd mentioning the rumor, and told everyone at the rally who didn't know about it to find out from the people around him, was Charles Soechting, the Chairman of the Texas Democratic Party, no less. I'd forgotten that detail, but that comes back to me now.

Okay, it goes back in the "it was a rumor" box. Now let's get someone to "really" investigate, and name names. Hey, if it was a roorback, I want to know that, too -- and whom to hang for it.

371 posted on 11/09/2004 6:17:05 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: ArmyBratproud

While it is sad to see him leave his post, it is understandable. It will also be good to have him home again and working on conservative causes here in Missouri. Missouri has finally gotten a Republican governor, Republican House and Republican Senate for the first time since 1922.....And I'm glad that Missouri could give a native son to the cause of freedom and liberty.


372 posted on 11/09/2004 6:20:26 PM PST by MissouriConservative (We will always remember, always be proud, always be prepared, so we may always be free)
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To: onyx
hehe! :^D

373 posted on 11/09/2004 6:20:37 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Dog Gone
I appreciate your fervor for what we both think is right, but we couldn't even pass the gay marriage amendment in the Senate by a majority vote this year, much less the amount required. And all that while the country is overwhelmingly opposed to it.

The country will drop its opposition when they figure out the gays have an Article IV slam-dunk case for shoving Massachusetts's shambolic, four-judge court decision down the throats of 280,000,000 Americans.

374 posted on 11/09/2004 6:20:39 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Thud
The Supreme Court violating separation of powers is far more dangerous.

Something they've taken to doing recently is citing international and European Union court decisions and taking "judicial notice". I don't like that one bit. The Constitution is their lodestar, not what the EU or The Hague thinks.

375 posted on 11/09/2004 6:24:13 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: My Favorite Headache
Ashcroft doesn't stand a chance getting to the SCOTUS

Thanks to the Rats and RINOs, you are correct, and neither does any other pro-life candidate.

This mandate will show how much the Republicrats are willing to stand up for what we believe...or not.

And pay very close attention who does what for the next election.

376 posted on 11/09/2004 6:36:15 PM PST by Indie (Ignorance of the truth is no excuse for stupidity.)
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To: JohnnyZ
You're a nutcase. I'm sure you were one of the foolios GUARANTEEING that Bush would renew the AWB.

Wrong on both counts. I never thought that Bush would push for renewal of AWB in Congress, not after I read something like a year ago that the basic Republican strategy on AWB would be to let it sunset, which was a good move.

But I still think 2A enthusiasts who think they have a defender in Bush need to check their hole card. Bush and his family are members of a socioeconomic group whose political typology, as worked up by the Pew Center's 1999 study, is marked by quiet nonsupport of 2A rights. Business Republicans do not support RKBA and would prefer a regime of licensure and registration. They basically agree, very quietly, with the Brady Campaign and the Violence Policy Center on a number of points, unlike the more politically conservative Republicans who are the kind of people you're more likely to meet on FR.

Don't confuse the FR consensus with the GOP consensus, or the consensus, more to the point, of the people who run the GOP at the top.

There is also quite a bit of daylight between Business Wing Republicans and conservatives on reproductive and other social issues. George Bush, for example, had two bronze plaques removed overnight in 2000 from Texas state buildings that carried the coat of arms of the Confederate States of America, because he'd received a letter from an NAACP honcho who let him know that the NAACP planned to make a campaign issue of those plaques, as if Gov. Bush personally endorsed slavery. So rather than stand up to them on that issue, he made it go away overnight -- which has been the business class's response to every single incident involving NAACP boycotts over Confederalia of any sort.

The Bushes and the top crust of the GOP aren't nearly as conservative as you and I.

377 posted on 11/09/2004 6:43:54 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Txsleuth
lost a Senatorial race to a dead man (then he laughed).

Screw Mathews. He doesn't have a clue what was going on here at that time. His a$$ was in that studio up there in New York City.

Rant off. Nothing personal to you Txsleuth.

378 posted on 11/09/2004 6:44:28 PM PST by Missouri
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To: lentulusgracchus
It's not that clear yet. The states that have approved Defense of Marriage acts have not yet been sued that I know of. Presumably the high court will rule those unconstitutional, but perhaps not. Texas is going a bit further in attempting to insert a state constitutional provision banning gay marriage. That creates a secondary legal hurdle.

It's obviously easier to enact a Constitutional Amendment than convene a Constitutional Convention. The former has been done many times, and the latter attempted many more times, but without any success.

379 posted on 11/09/2004 6:48:00 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
An amendment to the state constitution settled the issue in Hawaii, where their supreme court had ruled in favor of the gays in Baehr vs. Lewin. The justices stayed their order pending the outcome of the statewide amendment issue, and the case was mooted by the amendment.

The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court set a tight deadline in their case precisely to forestall this eventuality, showing IMHO proof positive of abusive judicial bias in that they collaborated with the gay NGO's in ensuring that at least some "gay marriage" licenses would issue -- which gay couples promptly took back to their home states (never mind the wording of the SJC's decree, that the licenses should issue only to bona fide Massachusetts residents) so they could sue in federal court for injunctive relief under the Full Faith and Credit Clause of Article IV of the Constitution. Which has been Lambda Legal's objective in pursuing these cases ever since Baehr was forum-shopped filed in 1991.

The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court behaved as partisan henchmen in a matter of great import to the country, with the evident intention that their actions should work to the manifest injury of the People of the United States.

Now that the issue is joined in federal court, the only way to avoid a SCOTUS decision whose outcome is clearly signaled by the language of the Lawrence travesty is to moot the issue at the federal level. And the only way to do that is to amend the Constitution. I don't think a federal statute attempting to rescind the purview of the Supreme Court will get it done: that would be a challenge to their scope, and would very likely be found unconstitutional "by any means necessary" itself.

380 posted on 11/09/2004 7:04:59 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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