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Ashcroft & Evans resign
MSNBC

Posted on 11/09/2004 2:50:48 PM PST by USNA74

Reporting that AG Ashcroft and Commerce Sec Don Evans have resigned.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ashcroft; commerce; doj; donevans; evans; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; resignation; wot
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To: Blzbba
Early after his appointment to AG, he got so offended by the bare breasts of the statue of Justice (you know - the blinded woman holding scales) that he spent about $8000 of our tax dollars to erect a curtain to shield this terrible site from the public's viewing eyes.

That's not true, quit listening to the Rat parodies.

The nude statue was behind him in the news conferences, so the TV shots & pictures showed a pair of breasts next to his head, which is just weird. They should have just moved the podium to get a better angle, but your "offended" story is made up.

341 posted on 11/09/2004 5:09:08 PM PST by JohnnyZ ("Thought I was having trouble with my adding. It's all right now." - Clint Eastwood)
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To: txradioguy; MEG33
Any "scoop" or "inside information" the Statesman ever claims to have is just so much BS! So if the said they had something on the Gov. 99% chance it WAS a smear.

Well, it wasn't just the American-Statesman (may they be covered up forever in pig dung) that supposedly had this story. Every 'Rat in Houston -- well, the active ones, anyway -- had the story, too, and they were passing it around at a political rally, which a 'Rat I know told me about, and I also saw posts about it on FR's Texas board.

Now, was it a roorback? After all, LBJ once smeared a man like that -- "I just want to hear him say it," said Landslide Lint'n. So we know the 'Rats are capable of that kind of thing. Was that the case here?

I don't know, but the story was that the American-Statesman had Perry dead cold, that he was caught out by state employees in the Capitol. Either it did happen, or it didn't happen, but the story was very specific and even named the other party. You can't just ignore stuff like this and just say, well, it's partisan and therefore it's all lies. If it were untrue, Gov. Perry should have sued the story's manufacturer for defamation of character -- but he didn't defend himself, instead he went to the American-Statesman and sued for peace. That alone sounds really bad, right there. He should have bid them defiance, if it were untrue, and fought to the last ditch for his reputation. He didn't do that.

If it was more than even a little bit true, Perry should have resigned instantly. If it were even partly true, he should never have stood for Lt. Governor in the first place. He had no business standing for office while holding himself out to be something he wasn't, and standing for office under circumstances that might later lead to his being personally compromised or blackmailed.

Which, considering that he had to go to the American-Statesman to get the story buried, may be exactly what happened: a bunch of wingo, liberal journoscum blackmailed a Governor of Texas and extracted a secret price for their complicity in keeping his secret -- which he shouldn't have had -- away from the public. From that point on, he's conspiring with Leftist scum against his own party and people.

This isn't a case of "What is the truth? said jesting Pilate/ And would not stay for an answer." This is a case of, Rick Perry clammed up about something we have a right to know about, and only the Leftist scum over at that Austin fish-wrapper know what really was said in their offices.

342 posted on 11/09/2004 5:11:01 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: All

Well, Bill O'Reilly just went off on another judge. Hooray! This time the judge is saying that enemy combatants (terrorists) captured in Afghanistan and shipped to Gitmo HAVE to be given the rights of a POW and Geneva conventions. Boy oh Boy, Bill was even going off on Judge Napalitano. (Napalitano wimped out on this one!)


343 posted on 11/09/2004 5:11:19 PM PST by Txsleuth (Proud to be a Texan)
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To: Petronski

Wow, that's an outside the box prediction.


344 posted on 11/09/2004 5:11:34 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Riverman94610

Just in from the Blue States - Al Charleton for AG and Jesse Jettison for Sec of Commerce


345 posted on 11/09/2004 5:13:58 PM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Thud
It is time for state legislatures to petition Congress to convene a convention to propose Constitutional amendments.

I'm not sure I'd go for that. If you think the past two Presidential elections were devisive, they'd be footnotes to this battle. I think it literally could split the country apart, unlike this tough talk no walk crap from the liberals this week.

346 posted on 11/09/2004 5:17:44 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: USNA74

good for ashcroft, he took a lot of nonsense from the left


347 posted on 11/09/2004 5:21:35 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Good ol' Coney Island College. Go WhiteFish.)
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To: Gaetano

Yes, Lungren just won Doug Ose's seat. It was thought he did it to run against Boxer, but he might have designs on Feinstein's seat in 2006 should she retire. But, House seats are filled via special election, not appointments by the Governor.


348 posted on 11/09/2004 5:28:40 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Gaetano

Ose, not Lungren running in 2006, I mean.


349 posted on 11/09/2004 5:29:03 PM PST by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Dog Gone; lentulusgracchus; Gophack; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ElkGroveDan
The Supreme Court violating separation of powers is far more dangerous.

And Democrats these days are a buncha wusses.

I was in law school when Nixon was re-elected in 1972. Worse, I was then a Democrat and sat in then San Francisco Supervisor Dianne Feinstein's office chair on election night fielding phone calls from harassed poll workers who turned very confused Democratic voters over to me to tell them how to vote the straight Democratic ticket. Because the poll workers weren't supposed to do that, and these voters needed all the help they could get just to keep breathing.

My father was then a state Democratic official, and Pop's biggest political disappointment was that his best friend got on Nixon's enemies list while Pop didn't. And Ray never let Pop forget that either.

Democrats were every bit as bummed out in 1972 as they are now, but we weren't quitters then, and came back and won. I left the Democrats after Jean Kirkpatrick did, based on her example, first to be an independent and then a Republican in the fall of 1990 when the Democrats wanted to let Saddam keep Kuwait.

But Democrats today are wusses. Let them go to Canada.

And start the constitutional convention process - just trying to get one will help motivate Congress to pass some Constitutional amendments which the Democrats would otherwise block.

350 posted on 11/09/2004 5:30:15 PM PST by Thud
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To: bobjam
Ashcroft was certainly a lightning rod of controversy for the Bush Administration- mostly because he's tough and it goes with the territory of bein AG. Many are talking about Rudy Giuliani replacing him. That's about as big a contrast as one gets in the GOP.

If you don't think Rudy is tough, then you don't know Rudy. When he was the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York he rolled up his leaves and personally took on the job as lead trial counsel in one of the biggest political corruption scandals in the modern history of NYC. Most US Attorneys are pencil pushing policy makers. Not Rudy.

351 posted on 11/09/2004 5:33:15 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: newzjunkey

Didn't Teresa Heinz pose for that statue behind Ashcroft? woo wwooo.


352 posted on 11/09/2004 5:33:36 PM PST by diss-a-lib (God is a comedian, with an audience that refuses to laugh.)
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To: eno_

Never before coffee -


353 posted on 11/09/2004 5:35:01 PM PST by society-by-contract
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To: Labyrinthos

and Rudy is reform minded - if he got in there, he would start firing people - the place is still loaded with Clinton holdovers.


354 posted on 11/09/2004 5:36:13 PM PST by oceanview
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To: USNA74

...saw the headline and don't even have the stomach to read the thread (and haven't done so).

Because I know good and well that the radical social left will be pushing that male Janet Reno from New Yuk.

...sickening, and my answer is no! We need a moral conservative as our US Attorney General--not Ms.-Mr. Caligula.



355 posted on 11/09/2004 5:37:49 PM PST by familyop (Essayons)
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To: JesseJane

Ken Starr has already held the position Ted Olson has now...I doubt he'd be interested in going back a second time.


356 posted on 11/09/2004 5:39:18 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: oceanview
and Rudy is reform minded - if he got in there, he would start firing people - the place is still loaded with Clinton holdovers.

We can only hope. At the very least, some of the those people could find themselves reassigned to the janitorial review committee.

357 posted on 11/09/2004 5:40:01 PM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: USNA74

Is it pro-forma or is it real?

Aren't they all supposed to tender their resignations?


358 posted on 11/09/2004 5:40:07 PM PST by xzins ((Now that the election's over; I need a new tagline...))
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To: Thud
I appreciate your fervor for what we both think is right, but we couldn't even pass the gay marriage amendment in the Senate by a majority vote this year, much less the amount required. And all that while the country is overwhelmingly opposed to it.

California's Howard Jarvis, the author of Prop 13 once wrote, a constitutional convention "would put the Constitution back on the drawing board, where every radical crackpot or special interest group would have the chance to write the supreme law of the land."

That's undeniably true, even if they weren't ultimately successful.

359 posted on 11/09/2004 5:44:01 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Missouri

Yep....he has probably done things to keep this country safe that none of us will never know about. He made the left howl here in Missouri for more than 8 years and continued to make them howl when he took the AG job in Washington.

I am proud that he is from Missouri and that he kicked terrorist butt.


360 posted on 11/09/2004 5:44:46 PM PST by MissouriConservative (We will always remember, always be proud, always be prepared, so we may always be free)
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