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Democratic Party must be 'born again,' Carville says
Washington Times ^ | 11/09/04 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 11/08/2004 11:04:44 PM PST by kattracks

Democratic strategist James Carville said yesterday that the Democratic Party's losses last Tuesday were no fluke, and that they need to rethink exactly who they are and provide something more than a litany of policy proposals.
    "The underlying problem here is, there is no call to arms that the Democratic Party is making to the country," said Mr. Carville, the architect of Bill Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign win. "We've got to reassess ourselves. We've got to be born again."

Democrats are debating what went right and what went wrong in last Tuesday's election, in which President Bush won re-election over Sen. John Kerry, and Democrats also lost seats in both the House and Senate. Some have said there is no need for soul-searching, and blamed the losses on a difficult election-year map or a poor candidate at the top of the ticket.
    During the Democratic National Convention this summer in Boston, when Mr. Bush trailed in the polls, Mr. Carville said, "It would be the greatest political achievement of my lifetime" if he came back to beat Mr. Kerry.
    But yesterday, Mr. Carville said not only was it a great comeback, but coupled with the 2002 congressional-election losses, it shows it's time for Democrats to engage in a major re-examination.


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cluelessness; democratinsanity; kerrydefeat
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To: RandallFlagg

Because power corrupts.


41 posted on 11/09/2004 4:02:51 AM PST by Paul_B
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To: CyberAnt

It is hard to believe that the Democrats did not think that the Clinton fiascos would leave a lasting impression for years to come. Picture, again, Clinton's endless preparations for his lawsuits, his lying, and on and on and on. Then, again, remember his party standing behind him in impeachment telling the American people that Clinton's personal behavior did not matter, telling us what we should and should not think. You do not tell the American people how to think. And then, fast forward, to Kerry, Terreza, and "I have a plan (just not gonna splain what it is). They still don't get it.


42 posted on 11/09/2004 4:19:12 AM PST by DooDahhhh
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To: kattracks

Carville's right, and in a few weeks we'll see evidence that RATs have taken his advice. It'll take that long for secret meetings to take place. The weekly lie, daily lie: that Liberals are more moral than Bush republicans. The RAT foot soldiers...general dumb RATs will continue to be outraged until Hill tells them it's okay. They're going right back to Clinton tactics, because that's what got them in last time(and Perot), but we won't talk about that.


43 posted on 11/09/2004 4:25:54 AM PST by hershey
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To: Paul_B

Okay, now I knew you were going to answer with that one.

Now the question is: what party would replace the 'rats?

(Personally, I'd like to see:
"The Republican Party, and The Conservative Party candidates held their debates last night-----"


44 posted on 11/09/2004 5:02:19 AM PST by RandallFlagg (FReepers, Do NOT let the voter fraud stories die!!!! (Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name))
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To: RandallFlagg

Years ago, even before Clinton, John Neuhaus opined that the next great debate would be between conservos and libertarians. Might still take place, but a funny thing happened on the way to the forum.


45 posted on 11/09/2004 5:06:46 AM PST by Paul_B
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To: kattracks
That would mean they would accept Christ as their Savior for their sins.

It would be a good step, but I doubt it happening.

46 posted on 11/09/2004 5:12:42 AM PST by SkyPilot
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To: Happy2BMe


47 posted on 11/09/2004 6:18:16 AM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: MeekOneGOP

Yep. That's the mealy-mouthed Democrat dipwad all right.


48 posted on 11/09/2004 6:30:20 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: kattracks

Even in his confession of failure, he still DOESN'T GET IT. By using the phrase that Republicans message includes, "Protecting us from the HOMOS in Hollywood" he still doesn't understand what this is all about. It's really, really sad.


49 posted on 11/09/2004 7:41:31 AM PST by Hildy (The really great men are always simple and true)
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To: kattracks

Carville is about the only Democrat I've seen who is making sense. Of course they will ignore him.


50 posted on 11/09/2004 7:43:19 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Happy2BMe

I think you meant 1992, not 1982. ;^)


51 posted on 11/09/2004 7:48:18 AM PST by Reagan Man ("America has spoken")
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To: Reagan Man
What's a measly TEN years, anyway?

:~)

52 posted on 11/09/2004 7:58:31 AM PST by Happy2BMe (It's not quite time to rest - John Kerry is still out there (and so is Hillary))
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To: DooDahhhh

I agree .. this whole decline of the dems began with the arrogance and total disregard for the law perpetrated by the Clinton cabal.

I remember the group gathering with Clinton after he was impeached. I remember Algore saying that Clinton would be remembered in history as one of America's "greatest presidents". I almost threw up.

The other thing a lot of people are not aware of is a little event which took place before the election in 1992. It seems that GHW Bush had sent Baker to Israel to tell Israel that America was not going to guarantee the loans Israel wanted to borrow in order to provide for the millions of Jews who were going to be migrating from Russia; even though the guarantee was NOT a monatary guarantee.

Enter Bill Clinton - several weeks before the election, he was called to the bedside of a Baptist preacher friend - who was dying. During this meeting, Clinton was told by the preacher that HE MUST SUPPORT ISRAEL .. NO MATTER WHAT. And .. if Clinton would swear on a Bible to do that, Clinton could win the election. According to the information, Clinton did just that .. and of course he won the election.

What a lot of non-Christian people don't understand is that GOD will give people every chance to prove themselves. Clinton was handed a golden opportunity to do the right thing .. he not only didn't do that .. he just continued to have scandal after scandal. Clinton also allowed his cabal to ravage America.

Rush took a poll one year after Clinton was impeached to guage America's opinion of impeachment, and the results were absolutely STUNNING. During impeachment, the MSM were constantly in our face saying that 75% of the American people did not want Clinton removed from office. However, what the MSM has never come to grips with (and never informed the public about) is that just one short year later, that very same 75% of the American people - now believed Clinton SHOULD have been removed from office.

This opinion remained as the Clintons left the WH and STOLE precious items which did not belong to them. It was also learned that the Clintons had told family members to get a big truck and make tracks for the storage units all over DC and help themselves of the govt property which was stored there [fortunately they didn't succeed in being able to pull off this theft of govt property - but the public was aware they tried]. Then Clinton made all those disgusting pardons for the worst of the criminals.

I believe too that this STAIN on the presidency has left a lasting mark - a mark which the MSM/dems have never acknowledged. Because .. to acknowledge it is to admit the MSM/dems were wrong about supporting and covering up for Clinton. We see the same thing with Kerry .. none of the MSM/dems will admit Kerry was a terrible and extremely flawed candidate.

When will the dems come to their senses (if they ever will) is beyond knowing. The Zell Miller dems may (with Zell's direction) begin a new movement within the dem party which could finally rid it of the Clinton cabal. I wish them luck; they'll need it.


53 posted on 11/09/2004 3:30:43 PM PST by CyberAnt (Election 2004: The SOUL OF AMERICA WINS ! ! !)
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To: kattracks; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog; Mudboy Slim
He said Mr. Bush and Republicans presented just such a story: "These guys had a narrative — we're going to protect you from the terrorists in Tikrit and from the homos in Hollywood.

Check this one out. Beauty...

54 posted on 11/09/2004 5:37:13 PM PST by Libloather (RED REGIONS ROCK!)
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To: kattracks

I guess the woman REALLY does make the man...


55 posted on 11/09/2004 7:03:12 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: kattracks
HAROLD ICKES:
on winning the presidency by terrorizing white women
bump

It's amusing how ickes, the clintons, and the entire left are publicly denying the reality of the security mom
and the
utter (and deliberate) failure of the clintons to have stemmed terrorism during the 8 years
they had the supreme duty to do so.

That the left now regards as its savior these two despicable utter failures
says everything we need to know about this
defunct, defective, decayed political organization.

Indeed, ickes, the clintons, and the entire left, by making this ludicrous argument, are denying the reality of the horrific danger of terrorism.

Never mind the presidency.
These idiots are demonstrating in real time why they must never again occupy any position of power in America.

56 posted on 11/10/2004 2:29:17 AM PST by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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