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Liberals face a disconnect from America. It will take a lot more than smooth talk to win back the folks in flyover country. As long as liberals feel superior and entitled, they're not likely to "get it." Do liberals realize this has been for some time and is now a 51 percent nation? Oh and Red State America is many things but stoopid and inbred.
1 posted on 11/08/2004 9:29:54 PM PST by goldstategop
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Many of these leftists are spoiled brats, who lived a sheltered life. Many never have been spanked and are raised by Dr. Spock.


2 posted on 11/08/2004 9:37:20 PM PST by Ptarmigan (Proud rabbit hater and killer)
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"(If the Old Media hadn't been in the tank for Kerry, there's no telling what the scope of Bush's victory would have been.)"

This was the most important line in the essay. Bush would have won by 60% if the media were behind him.


3 posted on 11/08/2004 9:41:08 PM PST by international american (RKBA RULES!!)
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4 posted on 11/08/2004 9:41:37 PM PST by Nateman (The enemies of reason are allies of evil.)
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For the liberals to regain authority ... they're going to have to do more than find a candidate who merely pays lip-service to the "right" things but who means them.

How are they suppose to do that?

If they find a candidate who will "do the right thing" he certainly won't be a Liberal.

The fact is, the Democratic Liberals have no one in their party who can appeal to main stream conservative values. All they can do is run a "ringer" and hope he wins.

5 posted on 11/08/2004 9:42:49 PM PST by Noachian (A Democrat, by definition, is a Socialist.)
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But what troubled me yesterday was... people who don't just favor different policies than I do -- they favor a whole different kind of America. We don't just disagree on what America should be doing; we disagree on what America is.

Yep. On our side, we believe in personal freedom and responsibility. On their side, they believe that America should be a socialist utopia, devoid of either.

6 posted on 11/08/2004 9:48:14 PM PST by exDemMom (Victory! Victory! Victory!)
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There were several reasons I voted for the Pres and one of them was that I'm not a proponent of Socialism and Kery and the current Dems are. I've not seen Socialism mentioned as an issue, only touched on as national healthcare. But even THAT wasn't called what it really is. It seems people are afraid to be honest about what the Dems goal really is.


9 posted on 11/08/2004 10:02:39 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (Liberals Are INTOLERANT!)
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"Their angst proceeds from an arrogant feeling of superiority and entitlement that tells them they alone should be in power"

That line says everything about the liberal democrats. They are really convinced they are superior and entitled. It is THEIR country and THEY KNOW BEST how to govern and manage it.

How can we dare not see they and their positions are so superior? But remember when they had a slick salesman like Bill they were able to convince more than half the electorate they were right.

We must never forget that. It is only that 5% that they need to convince. An educated electorate is all that will prevent that. Who doubts that Bush won because more people where learning for themselves instead of taking the MSM spoon feed?

When that 5% thinks for themselves we will continue to win. When they don't, the candidate that seems to "feel their pain the best will."


10 posted on 11/08/2004 10:24:17 PM PST by JSteff
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"But I happen to believe the main reason the president won is because he has been an effective wartime president, and the people trust that he will continue to be.) "

This is exactly correct. The liberals are off on a tangent. Fine by me, let them go wrong.

I heard some Dem politico on TV this morning quoting scripture on "to whom more has been given more will be required" and calling Republicans "greedy." I have seen other hints of this elsewhere. I am not sure it will work like they think it will given that they think moral values is the reason Bush won and not his leadership in the war on terror. Still I hope our side can outflank them early on this greed and morals thing that they are trying on for size.

11 posted on 11/08/2004 10:35:08 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats (My screen name has come true!!!! W whipped the Dems ! Yaaaaaay!!!)
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"Liberals" don't just face a disconnect from America, they are disconnected from reality. The reality is that the Islamofascists are going to try and kill every single one of us. As soon as they can get a working nuclear weapon they will use it on us.

That's why I voted for Bush. At least he's trying to preserve our security and safety and freedom. The "liberals"? We wouldn't last a year with them in charge. If millions of us weren't dead, the economy would be in the toilet. The entire world economy.


13 posted on 11/08/2004 10:37:25 PM PST by garyhope
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The Dems are going to make a moral issue of taxes. I see it coming. They are starting to say that it is immoral and greedy to not tax the rich and give it to the poor.


14 posted on 11/08/2004 10:38:53 PM PST by DestroytheDemocrats (My screen name has come true!!!! W whipped the Dems ! Yaaaaaay!!!)
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In short, the Democrats must put forth a candidate that mirrors the electorate... Which scares the begeezies out of them. Oh how entertaining their crumbling is...


19 posted on 11/09/2004 5:29:56 AM PST by smith288 (I have posted over 10,000 times. The more I post, the more intelligent you become!)
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win back the folks in flyover country

I believe an effective business plan for the old media to recast themselves in this new era would be to adopt a distributed information model similar to the Net.

In other words, rather than utilizing centralized locations for their news readers, take advantage of various regional perspectives throughout the red states (and counties within blue states).

Ironically, CNN adopted a version of this model years ago, but of course elected to adopt a liberal spin. Since the old media are really the media arm of the DNC, perhaps the Dems could pay for a pilot study to figure out the lost constituency.

20 posted on 11/09/2004 5:34:08 AM PST by lemura
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The Liberal rallying cry is that all is not lost because Bush only won over the "uneducated rural hicks" and the "religious zealots." However, the facts are something other. President Bush won a majority of college graduates, high-school graduates, people over 30, white women, married people, couples with children, white men, people earning over $30,000 a year, as well as, the dreaded evangelicals. Furthermore, Gallup reported that President Bush actually lost 6% of the rural vote that he won in 2000. President Bush, in fact, improved his electoral performance in 45 of 50 states and even narrowed the gap in California and New York. So, in recapping John Kerry won the highly coveted high school drop-outs between the ages of 20-29. It turns out that those darn Christian’s went and got an education and have started to earn some decent money. Liberals have to understand they haven’t been relevant for about 50 years.


22 posted on 11/09/2004 5:33:53 PM PST by auWater
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We don't just disagree on what America should be doing; we disagree on what America is."

The light finally dawns! Yes, we do disagree on what America is. We see it as the best place on earth with limitless potential. You see it as some place out of a horror movie and it must be torn down and remade in your image.

Ain't going to happen bucko.

23 posted on 11/09/2004 5:39:56 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Watch out! I have bunny slippers and I am not afraid to use them!)
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