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LA couple seeks same religious tax break as Scientologists
AP ^ | Nov. 8, 2004 | Paul Chavez

Posted on 11/08/2004 7:32:07 PM PST by Ahriman

A lawyer for an Orthodox Jewish couple claimed Monday that the Internal Revenue Service has violated the First Amendment by refusing to allow tax deductions for their children's religious schooling. The IRS should allow the deductions because it permits members of the Church of Scientology to write off the cost of spiritual counseling sessions, attorney Jeffrey Zuckerman said during the first day of a non-jury trial in U.S. Tax Court before Judge John O. Colvin. The First Amendment prohibits the IRS from discriminating on the basis of religion, Zuckerman said. Michael and Marla Sklar of Los Angeles brought the lawsuit after the IRS ruled their deductions were invalid because Jewish school tuition was considered payment for a service, not a charitable contribution. Louis B. Jack, an attorney for the IRS, said during his opening statement that a ruling in the Sklars' favor would lead "millions of Americans to start deducting religious school tuition." "Existing case law is clear, deduction for religious school tuition is illegal, period," Jack said. Michael Sklar, an accountant, testified that he amended his 1991 tax return in 1993 to claim a portion of his children's tuition as a charitable contribution. "I believed it was a valid deduction," he said. "The same benefit is given to a particular sect, Scientologists, and there's no reason it shouldn't be applied to someone else."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cchr; churchandstate; cruisekidman; cult; mindmeld; scammintologists; scientology; taxes; thetanpeople; unclear
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1 posted on 11/08/2004 7:32:07 PM PST by Ahriman
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To: Ahriman
The IRS should allow the deductions because it permits members of the Church of Scientology to write off the cost of spiritual counseling sessions, attorney Jeffrey Zuckerman said during the first day of a non-jury trial in U.S. Tax Court before Judge John O. Colvin.

Bad analogy. Now John Travolta and his buddies are going to leave a flaming bag of poop on Zuckerman's doorstep.

2 posted on 11/08/2004 7:46:23 PM PST by RansomOttawa (tm)
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To: Ahriman
What I'd like to know is how the "Church" of Scientology gets a tax break.

I'm starting my own religion.

3 posted on 11/08/2004 8:02:53 PM PST by FredZarguna (Wearing Black Pajamas, the Official Robes of the High Priest of the Church of Zarguna, Scientist.)
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To: RansomOttawa
Now John Travolta and his buddies are going to leave a flaming bag of poop on Zuckerman's doorstep.

More likely, they'll sue him and put up scurrilous posters in his neighborhood.

They are truly crazy.

-ccm

4 posted on 11/08/2004 9:08:26 PM PST by ccmay
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To: Ahriman

Good for them. I hope that they get somewhere with this.


5 posted on 11/08/2004 10:16:49 PM PST by Spirited
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To: Ahriman; Lisa Ruby

If the Scientologists are actually doing the equivalent of this schooling and getting tax breaks for it, then shoot everybody else should get the tax breaks too or else the Scientologist tax break scam should be shut down.

Lisa you know anything about this?


6 posted on 11/08/2004 10:22:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Ahriman
Hmmmm......
I want a tax break too.....
7 posted on 11/08/2004 10:23:59 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: FredZarguna
What I'd like to know is how the "Church" of Scientology gets a tax break.

clinton.

8 posted on 11/08/2004 10:24:22 PM PST by null and void (Yes. He is YOUR President. Deal with it!!!)
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To: FredZarguna
The Church of Greed.
9 posted on 11/08/2004 10:28:37 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
The Church of Greed.

The Church of Opposing Dumbass Government and Its Theft.

10 posted on 11/08/2004 10:31:17 PM PST by Hank Rearden (Never allow anyone who could only get a government job attempt to tell you how to run your life.)
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To: Hank Rearden
The Church of the Viking Kitties.


11 posted on 11/08/2004 10:43:15 PM PST by Slings and Arrows ("I heff good news and bad news. Good news is I saw Allah. Bad news is he was wearing a yarmulke.")
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To: Ahriman

Ohhhhhhh Tax Breaks *drool*
They are paying a high amount of taxes to fund an educational system that they are not using. Why shouldn't they be able to keep more of their own money to educate their child the way they see fit? This could really help the middle to low income parents put their children in better performing, religious schools.


13 posted on 11/08/2004 11:52:22 PM PST by DeepInEnemyTerritory (It is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the law to become void Luke 16:17)
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To: Hank Rearden
Good luck to anyone who worships their ideology. As anarcho-ideologues used to shout: "Property is theft!"
14 posted on 11/09/2004 6:20:12 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: ccmay

It would appear to me that there is an awful lot of religious bigotry flying around on these posts. Is this what America is all about? I thought religious freedom meant religious freedom for all, not just a select few who have decided theirs is worthy. I am a Scientologist. Proud of it. And I certainly am not crazy. Anyone who knows me would tell you I am a very SANE person who loves to help people. In fact, if you were to meet me on the street, you probably wouldn't be able to tell me from any sane, ethical, and moral human being. Don't want to be a Scientologist? Don't be one. But please don't attack my religion. It's not kind. NOW, on the subject at hand. I think these people have a good chance of winning, IF what they are looking for, is a tax break for religious schooling, in the sense of SPIRITUAL training. This is the key point. A Scientologist can only get a tax break on those services which provide spiritual enlightnment -- something that IS NOT tangible. The code is clear here. There are no deductions for books or services for which a TANGIBLE result is achieved. So if these people are looking for a tax deduction for school in general (math, english, science, etc.), they won't get it. If they are looking for a deduction in the area of spiritual enlightenment and betterment, I think they'll get it. As they should.


15 posted on 11/09/2004 6:25:46 AM PST by hopefulone
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To: Flying Circus

BUMP


17 posted on 11/10/2004 1:23:02 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: FredZarguna

Your logic is exactly L. Ron Hubbard's logic. Ever wonder why so many Scientologists are filthy rich? Tax loopholes. I live near Clearwater- I see it all day.


18 posted on 11/10/2004 1:26:18 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Product registration is for sissies.)
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To: hopefulone

You're claiming that the mental benefits of Scientology don't equal the benefits of say, a math course or an English course? It's all some 'intangible' spiritual benefit?

How exactly is it supposed to help you then? Does it just make you feel better, or does it really solve problems? According to the claims on the back cover of 'Dianetics', it's supposed to be a cure-all. How then is it intangible?

Makes no sense. My faith changes things tangibly.


19 posted on 11/10/2004 1:34:18 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Product registration is for sissies.)
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To: Ahriman

BUMP


20 posted on 11/10/2004 5:37:56 AM PST by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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