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Operation Phantom Fury Live Thread
msnbc, cnn, various ^ | epluribus_2

Posted on 11/08/2004 8:39:55 AM PST by epluribus_2

NEAR FALLUJAH, Iraq - More than 4,000 U.S. Marines and Army troops punched their way into northeastern Fallujah on Monday, kicking off a massive assault dubbed Operation Phantom Fury that seeks to put an end to half a year of insurgent control of the Sunni Muslim city.

The prelude to the assault on the Askari neighborhood was a crushing air and artillery bombardment of the city that rose to a crescendo by Monday evening, with U.S. strike jets dropping bombs around the clock and big guns pounding the city every few minutes with high-explosive shells.

Meanwhile, insurgents in Baghdad and nearby Ramadi tried to keep up the pressure on the coalition forces with new attacks, including one on a Catholic church in the capital.

Earlier Monday U.S. troops had fought their way into the city's western outskirts, seizing two bridges over the Euphrates River and helping Iraqi soldiers take the city's main hospital in the first stage of a major assault on the insurgent stronghold.

(Excerpt) Read more at msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: falluja; fallujah; iraq; napalminthemorning; religionofpeace; usmc; wot
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To: TexKat
Car bomb explodes outside Baghdad hospital, many victims

8 minutes ago

A car bomb exploded outside the emergency unit of one of Baghdad's main hospitals in the southwest of the Iraqi capital causing an unknown number of victims, an official at the Yarmuk hospital said.

"A car bomb exploded at the gate of the emergency department, there were a lot of people wounded and dead," the official told AFP.

Patients, staff and guards were among the victims, said the official, who declined to give his name.

Just hours early, Yarmuk hospital received three dead and 45 wounded after suspected car bombs exploded just minutes apart outside two churches in Baghdad.

The attacks came as US and Iraqi forces stormed the rebel enclave of Fallujah in an operation to crush the insurgency in Iraq (news - web sites) ahead of elections planned for January.

721 posted on 11/08/2004 1:40:49 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Conservababe
The population of Fallujah is/was 300,000.

Source?
I have a very hard time believing that since it is only 2x3 miles in size.
My sources say it held only 60,000.

722 posted on 11/08/2004 1:43:21 PM PST by TeleStraightShooter (Lurch planned to graft postVietnam policy on Iraq: Surrender and let the Syrian Baathists take over)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

One fell into a river after an accident on an improvised bridge and another needed to get the engine replaced after taking a Kornet up the rear...


723 posted on 11/08/2004 1:44:17 PM PST by L,TOWM (Time to take the kid gloves OFF, Mr. President...)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

That 107 mm recoiless could probably defeat the armor on an LAV, Bradley, or that big Amphib troop carrier that the Marines use, though.

Hope they don't have too much ammo for thing or that they have the normal Arab proficiency with weapons...


724 posted on 11/08/2004 1:47:21 PM PST by L,TOWM (Time to take the kid gloves OFF, Mr. President...)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
My sources say it held only 60,000.

Sorry, but I am too busy to do your homework.

725 posted on 11/08/2004 1:48:01 PM PST by Conservababe (Liberal...One whose mind is so open the brains are spilling out.)
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To: TexKat
We had that one covered, youre fast! ;o

Looks like Rummy was right about their main weapon being roadside bombs.

Prayers for the UK soldiers and their families.

Black Watch soldier killed, two hurt From correspondents in London November 9, 2004

A SOLDIER from Britain's Black Watch regiment serving in Iraq was killed and two others wounded when a bomb exploded near their camp south of Baghdad, the defence ministry said today.

"It is believed to be as a result of a roadside bomb," a spokesman said.

The names of the dead and injured men were not immediately made public.

"We need to inform the families of those involved. It is unlikely there will be any further details this evening (this morning AEDT)," the ministry said.

About 850 men of the Black Watch regiment were recently redeployed to a US-run sector south of Baghdad at the request of US commanders ahead of an assault on insurgent-held Fallujah. Britain has about 8500 troops in the south of Iraq.

Ill check back in later, traffic time.

726 posted on 11/08/2004 1:48:31 PM PST by No Blue States
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To: Maigrey
These guys are finally getting to do what they've been wanting to do for months!

Give 'em hell, guys!

727 posted on 11/08/2004 1:49:18 PM PST by TexasCowboy (Texan by birth, citizen of Jesusland by the Grace of God)
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To: TexKat
Mosque loudspeakers blared, "God is great, God is great."

If I were there I'd be tempted to put some through the minarets to shut these things up.

LQ

728 posted on 11/08/2004 1:50:38 PM PST by LizardQueen
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To: No Blue States

Bump


729 posted on 11/08/2004 1:51:38 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

Fallujah's population had dropped to 50,000 or 60,000 from 350,000 because many families had fled their homes seeking safe shelter.


730 posted on 11/08/2004 1:52:24 PM PST by Gucho
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To: LizardQueen

They would be the first to go.


731 posted on 11/08/2004 1:52:50 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Conservababe

Fallujah is around 232,600.

Per some reports, most of the residence have fled. One weekend report said only about 30,000 remain in the city.

Population source:

http://www.mongabay.com/igapo/Iraq.htm


732 posted on 11/08/2004 1:54:26 PM PST by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: TeleStraightShooter
Define "lost," I've seen pics of alot more than two knocked out in this war. None were catastrophic loses with the turret blow off ala Iraqi tanks in 1991 or 2003, but tanks knocked out just the same.
733 posted on 11/08/2004 1:55:50 PM PST by Mac94
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To: LizardQueen

"Drop your bombs between the minarets, down the casbah way..."


734 posted on 11/08/2004 1:57:04 PM PST by dfwgator (It's sad that the news media treats Michael Jackson better than our military.)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

It gives me a sick feeling in my stomach to know that these monsters are aiming at our brave soldiers!!! I hope we make short work of these terrorists and I pray our guys stay safe and are successful!


735 posted on 11/08/2004 1:59:05 PM PST by luvie (WE DID NOT WAVER; WE DID NOT TIRE; WE DID NOT FALTER; AND WE DID NOT FAIL! GWB WON!!!)
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To: TomGuy
It is sad to think that boys 15 & up were forced to stay & fight for the insurgents. very sad.

One other note.. it seems we have been "here" a few times.. I think I will literally scream if we have another "cease fire" to negotiate.
736 posted on 11/08/2004 2:01:46 PM PST by DollyCali (Winning isn't everything. But losing really sucks. Sorry sKerry. You're a loser in all respects.)
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To: dfwgator
Here is what we need...

Eglin Studying Massive 30,000 Pound Bomb, 40 Percent Bigger Than MOAB

737 posted on 11/08/2004 2:02:29 PM PST by NCjim
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To: TexKat
Car bomb explodes outside Baghdad hospital, many victims

More "negative advertising" --against the terrorists' own cause.

738 posted on 11/08/2004 2:03:43 PM PST by unspun (unspun.info | Did U work your precinct, churchmembers, etc. for good votes?)
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To: epluribus_2

Lt. Col (ret) Scott Rutter (embed) on FoxNews is saying they met with some resistance. Buildings are boobytrapped.


739 posted on 11/08/2004 2:03:58 PM PST by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

I may be wrong, but haven't we lost a few Abrams to anti-tank mines as well?


740 posted on 11/08/2004 2:05:50 PM PST by Levy78
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