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Europeans Wondering if Americans Are Just Dumb
The Chicago Tribune ^ | November 7, 2004 | Tom Hundley

Posted on 11/07/2004 12:00:21 PM PST by quidnunc

London – Europe's gut reaction to President Bush's re-election was clearly displayed on the front page of the Daily Mirror, a London tabloid.

"How can 59,054,087 people be so DUMB?" the headline asked.

It's no secret that most Europeans do not consider Bush to be an intellectual giant, but now it seems they have grave doubts about the rest of us, or at least the 59 million of us who voted for Bush.

Simon Schama, the eminent British historian and writer who now teaches at Columbia University, divides us into two nations.

One America, he explains to the liberal readership of the Guardian newspaper, "is a perimeter, lying on the oceans or athwart the fuzzy boundary with the Canadian lakes, and is necessarily porous and outward-looking."

The other America "is solidly continental and landlocked, its tap roots of obstinate self-belief buried deep beneath the bluegrass and high corn.

"It is time we called these two Americas something other than Republican and Democrat, for their mutual alienation and unforgiving contempt is closer to Sunni and Shia… . How about, then, Godly America and Worldly America?"

In Schama's scheme, Godly America is "mythic, messianic, conversionary, given to acts of public witness, hence the need — in Utah and Montana and a handful of other states — to poll the voters on amendments to their state constitution defining marriage as a union between the opposite sexes."

In other words, kind of unsophisticated.

Worldly America, on the other hand, is a lot more like, ah, Europe.

While Schama writes about the divisions in America, he unconsciously reveals a deeper divide between Americans and Europeans.

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(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: americabashing; antiamerican; antiamericanism; bushhaters; bushwins; dailymirror; dailymirroruk; england; eurosnobs; eurotwitsforkerry; goebbelswouldbeproud; mediabias; mirror; simonschama; uk; zogbyism
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1 posted on 11/07/2004 12:00:21 PM PST by quidnunc
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Americans are wondering if Europeans are just plain dumb?


2 posted on 11/07/2004 12:02:00 PM PST by injin
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To: quidnunc

I'm curious about their feelings about whats happening in Africa.


3 posted on 11/07/2004 12:02:53 PM PST by cripplecreek (John Kerry was beaten like a rented mule)
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To: injin

You have doubts?


4 posted on 11/07/2004 12:03:12 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: injin
"Americans are wondering if Europeans are just plain dumb?"

yep. Beat me to it.

5 posted on 11/07/2004 12:03:19 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: quidnunc

If it makes 'em feel better about their irrelevance, let 'em think it.


6 posted on 11/07/2004 12:03:26 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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To: cripplecreek

Exactly, probably not getting alot of press over there.


7 posted on 11/07/2004 12:03:58 PM PST by AirForceMom
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The other America "is solidly continental and landlocked, its tap roots of obstinate self-belief buried deep beneath the bluegrass and high corn.

Ya.. I really hated the fact that when I lived in Florida, I was landlocked.

8 posted on 11/07/2004 12:04:00 PM PST by bikepacker67 ("This is the best election night in history." -- DNC chairman Terry McAuliffe 11/2/04 8pm)
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To: injin
Americans are wondering if Europeans are just plain dumb?

I'm not wondering.

I am happy to see that my ancestral homelands of Ireland and Italy are starting to expand their grey matter, though. :-)
9 posted on 11/07/2004 12:04:15 PM PST by Freepdonia (Victory is Ours! (I told you so :-))
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To: injin
These Europeons should look more into the demographics. Certainly, the Red/Blue state map is useless.

For example, here in MA over 1,000,000 voters went for Bush.

10 posted on 11/07/2004 12:04:54 PM PST by C210N
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To: quidnunc

Oh, I dunno, we invented lightbulbs, airplanes, personal computers, and general relativity.

We're not exactly slouches!


11 posted on 11/07/2004 12:05:13 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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I would be so embarrassed if there was a group of people somewhere that I considered dumb, but they out performed me in every way for over a century and twice had to intervene to prevent me and my friends from killing each other by the tens of millions.

The fact that they still had most of their teeth while mine all fell out or rotted in my head would also be a tad disconcerting.

12 posted on 11/07/2004 12:05:14 PM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: injin

Uh, pick an area of endeavor, and then compare the collective accomplishments of America versus those of the entire European continent for the past 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, whatever time frame you wish. Case closed.


13 posted on 11/07/2004 12:05:14 PM PST by raptor29
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Americans are wondering if Europeans are just plain dumb?

Most of us aren't thinking about Europeans at all. And that is what is driving them insane.

14 posted on 11/07/2004 12:05:26 PM PST by Dont Mention the War (How important a Senator can you be if Dick Cheney's never told you to "go [bleep] yourself"?)
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The Eurotrash elitists need to realize who the Big Dog is. Who is there to defend their sorry asses if someone should challenge their pantywaists to a fight? The Big Dog is. Sooner or later though, you piss off the Big Dog, and the Big Dog finds other causes more worthy than protecting a bunch of ungrateful whiners.


15 posted on 11/07/2004 12:05:30 PM PST by Tuxedo (Not now John, we gotta get on with the film show)
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To: quidnunc

Yeah and how many Apollo missions did New York complete?


16 posted on 11/07/2004 12:05:38 PM PST by SteveMcKing
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let me see, I live in America and they live in Europe...hmm...who is dumb here?


17 posted on 11/07/2004 12:05:48 PM PST by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: Constantine XIII

GR because I thought (perhaps mistakenly) that Einstein was a citizen by that point.

Probably wrong. ><


18 posted on 11/07/2004 12:06:03 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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To: Freepdonia

I'm beginning to wonder if the intelligensia all over the world is just dumb....


19 posted on 11/07/2004 12:06:12 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: quidnunc

European stupidity was something I never had wonder about.
It was and is pretty self evident.


20 posted on 11/07/2004 12:06:12 PM PST by najida (Liberals: Clueless, arrogant, elitist snobs.... Their mama's didn't raise'em right.)
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