Posted on 11/06/2004 12:02:26 PM PST by CedarDave
New Mexico is going through what seems to have become its traditional post-election vote-counting dilemma, with confusion and rhetoric in great supply. One feeds the other and it's not good for the integrity of the process.
This year brought a new wrinkle with thousands of provisional paper ballots on top of a bumper crop of absentee and so-called in-lieu-of-ballots. More than 19,000 of these ballots remain to be verified or counted, or both. It's anyone's guess how many will be disallowed if the voter's eligibility cannot be confirmed.
The number of outstanding ballots -- and potential votes -- is greater than President Bush's unofficial 8,588-vote lead over John Kerry, but it appears highly unlikely Kerry will take the lead and the state's five electoral votes.
Meanwhile, Republican leaders have reacted strongly to vote-counting delays and premature television reports that Kerry had taken the lead -- two days after the Associated Press called Bush the winner in New Mexico. In the end, as anyone should be willing to concede, vote counts trump projections.
But the counting must be conducted in the open. The actions of Doña Ana and Sandoval county clerks do a great disservice to public confidence when they seek to bar outside observers.
Meanwhile, Secretary of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron has added to the confusion with incomplete vote totals on her Web site. She should consider taking it offline while totals are being updated, or include clear disclaimers. That Web site was the basis for erroneous news reports that Kerry had taken the vote count lead. The political party leaders in New Mexico, Republican Sen. Pete Domenici and Democratic Gov. Bill Richardson, agree there should be a better and faster way to count votes. They're right, and they should work together to make that happen next time.
For now, the existing vote-counting process takes time, and every legitimate vote should be counted. Partisans of every stripe should be patient and tone down the rhetoric, and public officials involved in the counting need to make sure the process is absolutely transparent.
As a neighboring friend of NM sharing a stateline, I can tell without a shadow of doubt, NM is fast approaching the liberal state status! Don't be surprise if W loses NM after all the votes are counted! FRAUD is quickly becoming NM middle name!
As a neighboring friend of NM sharing a stateline, I can tell without a shadow of doubt, NM is fast approaching the liberal state status! Don't be surprise if W loses NM after all the votes are counted! FRAUD is quickly becoming NM middle name!
Well, Bill Richardson is the governor, after all ...
http://65.160.159.96/County2.htm
Results for: Bernalillo County
When posted originally, 1 precinct reporting, there were ~20,000 votes for John Kerry. None for George W. Bush. None for any other race.
I never have seen a precinct by precinct report of the county.
Someone posted a thread to address that particular scandal but an overzealous mod killed it saying Pulled on 11/03/2004 1:09:33 AM PST by Admin Moderator, reason: There are votes listed for Bush/Cheney. WASN'T ALWAYS SO.
I saw the "live" data on that website myself. Some FReepers posted the values.
What just happened in New Mexico?
just went to state of new mexico unofficial election results page and get this they have kerry taking bernalillo county 28,125 to 0... that's right 0. can you say fraud?(43 posted on 11/03/2004 12:58:51 AM PST by Big Rocco)
Stealing thousands of votes is a seditious act trying to thwart the will of the people. If people attempt such fraud they should spend the rest of their life behind bars.
I'd advocate the death penalty (not for all vote fraud but certainly when corrupt officials are involved in a federal office race). I don't know that Americans would agree with me.
The Albuquerque Journal editor board are a bunch of hypocrites. The journal has run stories hyping the counting the "provisional" ballots as if it could change the outcome, without explaining that many provisional ballots are never counted because they are not considered to be valid.
bttt
Fast approaching? The Rio Grande valley region is well past approaching, more like leaving it in the dust.
Yes, absolutely impossible.
PING!
There were black precincts that reported 98.x% vote for Brown (D) over Orlando Sanchez (R). At least one precinct turned in a tally of something like 10,000 votes at the end of the night for Brown.
I think it was another 51%-49% race.
BTTT
I knew there was going to be big fraud in NM when the El Pasoans headed over to NM right before the election.
http://www.elpasotimes.com/stories/borderland/20041030-187932.shtml
Battle for NM
El Pasoans leave city to fight for key state
More than 300 El Paso hard-core political partisans are migrating to New Mexico this weekend to deliver voters in the battleground state that both President Bush and Democratic opponent Sen. John Kerry consider crucial for victory in Tuesday's election.
Because Bush is virtually guaranteed to win his home state of Texas and Kerry enjoys a lock on Democratic El Paso, the community's political activists are fanning out across Las Cruces and the rest of Doña Ana County.
Earlier I posted a comprehensive thread updating the doings in NM here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1272866/posts
Earlier I posted a comprehensive thread updating the doings in NM here:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1272866/posts
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