Posted on 11/05/2004 8:44:13 AM PST by RightSideRedux
Here are some great quotes from the some left-leaning blogsites
Edwards had it right when he spoke of Two Americas. Those Two Americas just threw up a big brick wall between them in the last 2 days. I don't think any of us can knock it down. (source)
The talk of values on tv and i heard it a lot on CBS because that was the network on which i watched most of the time last night. it's not values, it's a terrible form of Christianity, where you don't have a god to love but a devil to hate and sinners to punish. that is your hard-core bush-supporting evangelicals. (source)
Bush made a conscious decision not to be "out- Jesused." The only way to fight him was to show his supporters that their candidate had feet of clay, that he did not in fact live the life they thought he did. (source)
There are more conservatives out there than liberals, and as I wrote at length here, they stand for things we are diametrically opposed to. We can't siphon the "racist" vote, or the "anti-gay" vote, or the "religious nutcase" vote. And the numbers are saying that those constituencies are very large, even if we liberals don't want to believe that. (source)
We need to SIMPLIFY our message, and as someone else said up-thread, celebrate REAL family values- health care for all, clean environment, respect for LIFE on our terms, etc.
For crying out loud, this is why we lost the election. Stop looking for conspiracy theories and start looking for answers. Kerry lost this election, as Gore did...now what are you going to do about it? You can scream fraud all you want, but it's not going to change anything. We (i.e. the democrats and their supporters) have to stop playing the blame game, and get their own house in order.
Reframing the argument. In the coming era, Pro life could mean protecting people at all stages of life. e.g. Pregnant single women with low income and little access to affordable healthcare are more likely to have an abortion. If you want to stamp out abortion, you have to demonize all the root causes of abortion, not just sex and not the procedure itself. Improve access to education, expand section 8 housing, fight for a higher minimum wage, etc. By using the momentum of the theocrats against themselves we can bring mainstream-conservative Christians into our tent but it will take years (probably decades) to reframe the arguments sufficiently so that a 3 second sound bite with a few code words thrown in will move 50+ million voters.
I do think we have to understand that Rove has changed the make up electorate. We can't go buy official party registrations; Rove has increased the size of the reliable conservative electorate and put us at a greater starting point disadvantage. This has helped Republicans beat expectations in both 2002 and 2004. Traditionally Presidential parties take a beating in the sixth year of a two term president, but Clinton beat that rule in 1998, and I would ignore it in 2006- we are going to have to fight for every inch
Fraud alone is not why Kerry is behind in the popular vote by 3+ million.(Although if all the absentee and provisional ballots are counted, this number will decrease). And even if Kerry won Ohio, a 3 million vote deficit and a Rethug Congress would make Kerry's presidency impossible to govern. The likely outcome is that W runs again in 2008 and wins. (source)
Mike Malloy covered this on his AirAmericaRadio show last night. Four republican backed, religious fundamentalist christian inspired companies have cornered the touch screen voting machine market. They are:ES & S, Diebold, Sequoia, SAIC
Our despair, on the other hand, is undiluted. American liberalism is going into a deep internal exile. This will be, at least with regard to our public institutions, Tom DeLay's America--craven toward the economically powerful and vicious toward the economically weak, contemptuous of open debate and thuggish toward an increasingly embittered world. It would be comforting to believe the pendulum will naturally swing back. But, as my colleague Jonathan Chait has argued, the Bush administration and its allies have gone to great lengths to insulate themselves from democratic pressure, to make decisions in secret, and thus to prevent public opinion from forcing their hand. Already, the president is claiming a mandate for partial Social Security privatization and regressive changes in the tax code-- even though he rarely campaigned on these issues and there is no evidence the American public voted for them. The pendulum will not inevitably swing back. It will have to be moved back by a political opposition that knows what it believes and knows how to fight for it.
I heard an angry SKerry "aide" say that Kerry was the "secular" Candidate...In his warped mind America is becoming Ayatollahland!
The disorder of the far left seems to be some form of arrested development.
If you consider at all their comments regarding this election together, they have one common thread--"immaturity."
*Shaking head*
It's rather like the male/female, mars/venus thing isn't it? Almost like they speak a different language and the universal translator is offline. It's truly mindboggling how these people can say and write what they do with a straight face! Amazing...
There are more conservatives out there than liberals
Q:"What are the best things in life, Arnold?"
A:"To defeat your enemies in battle and to hear the lamentations of their girlymen. Shut up, Maria."
:-)
That statement popped out at me too. Again, always, moral relativism. There's a guy I work with that believes that there is no absolute right or wrong. Right and wrong is dictated by what the majority of the people say is right or wrong. I've had a few discussions with him about it and have decided that because he (and I will go ahead and assume all like-minded liberal thinkers) doesn't believe in God that he can never be convinced there is an absolute right or wrong. If he doesn't believe in a God that never changes, he can't believe in a right and wrong that never changes.
Q:"What are the best things in life, Conan?"
A:"To defeat your enemies in battle and to hear the lamentations of their metrosexuals."
HA
I hope not...they'll never again have anyone from their party in the WH...we'll stack the senate and keep majority control of the house. Let them keep their blindness....great for us....
Huh? What did I miss?
Four republican backed, religious fundamentalist christian inspired companies have cornered the touch screen voting machine market.
What's so surprising about the leadership of major established tech companies being Republicans? It's not lik they're startup software companies founded by college kids in their dorm rooms.
Someone else said it on FR, but I don't know who or else I would give them credit for the statement:
The right bases its politics on morals, while the left bases its morals on politics.
Sometime in the distant future, I won't be surprised if there is hard, scientific evidence supporting this assertion. We all may discover that strident, violence-prone liberalism is a manifestation of a biochemical condition that renders the patient more susceptible to delusion.
But then again, as Rush says, "History began this morning for these people."
Um, since Bush didn't "win" the "election" of "2000", and the Constitution only permits two terms, then arguably he can run again in 2008, right?
Classic quote from the Exploding Right:
Democrats were ABORTED
And it was election day's late term abortion.
That's a mighty revealing comment.
Oh.
Unbelievable. Where is this guy living? Poor women are more likely to have children out of wedlock, making their financial situation worse, perpetuating the cycle of poverty. The solution is not more abortions or offering publically-funded abortion services, but convincing the women having kids with no means of support to simply not have those children while they are not in a financial position to support them. Most abortions are elective procedures by those with a means to pay for them, who make a conscious choice to do away with the unborn child out of expediency or convenience.
What they don't understand is that America rejected their Socialist program. America loves freedom.
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