Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

A Blue City (Disconsolate, Even) Bewildered by a Red America
NY Times ^ | 04 November 2004 | Joseph Berger

Posted on 11/03/2004 7:39:23 PM PST by Lorianne

triking a characteristic New York pose near Lincoln Center yesterday, Beverly Camhe clutched three morning newspapers to her chest while balancing a large latte and talked about how disconsolate she was to realize that not only had her candidate, John Kerry, lost but that she and her city were so out of step with the rest of the country.

"Do you know how I described New York to my European friends?" she said. "New York is an island off the coast of Europe."

Like Ms. Camhe, a film producer, three of every four voters in New York City gave Mr. Kerry their vote, a starkly different choice than the rest of the nation. So they awoke yesterday with something of a woozy existential hangover and had to confront once again how much of a 51st State they are, different in their sensibilities, lifestyles and polyglot texture from most of America. The election seemed to reverse the perspective of the famous Saul Steinberg cartoon, with much of the land mass of America now in the foreground and New York a tiny, distant and irrelevant dot.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: kerry; nyc
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160161-180 next last
To: NewLand

I wonder if NY-ers have any clue how we think about them. Self-absorbed, almost like a group of people isolated in a small mirror lined room their entires lives thinking that the small room is the whole universe.


121 posted on 11/04/2004 3:52:45 AM PST by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (THANK YOU LORD FOR YOUR MERCY TO US!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: nana4bush

If you have ever put milk in your coffee you have had a latte.


122 posted on 11/04/2004 4:07:44 AM PST by Ditter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

"I just had a great idea! Starbucks should have a special on disconsolatte !"

I ran out of breath I laughed so hard. What a winner!


123 posted on 11/04/2004 4:11:25 AM PST by gobucks (http://oncampus.richmond.edu/academics/classics/students/Ribeiro/laocoon.htm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: this_ol_patriot

See my post #122.


124 posted on 11/04/2004 4:16:41 AM PST by Ditter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 40 | View Replies]

To: Vision Thing
When Civil War 2 begins

Not necessary, or didn't you notice - W won.

125 posted on 11/04/2004 4:17:20 AM PST by reg45
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne
51st State

I wish

126 posted on 11/04/2004 4:33:41 AM PST by The Mayor (The fires of life will not destroy you if you're watered by the River of Life.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Comment #127 Removed by Moderator

To: NewLand
The only reason there is such angst in the liberal left is that they all seriously believed their own propaganda. I can't remember another election where New Yorkers cared about what the rest of the country thought. They are always oblivious to external public opinion.

Their angst is due to the arogance of the DEMS assumption that a large turnout would ensure their re-election. Like kids waiting for Santa Claus to deliver Christmas, the great electoral turnout brought them only coal and ashes. Boo hoo.

It's a miracle that the New Yorkers are even paying attention to what the rest of the country is doing.

128 posted on 11/04/2004 4:39:05 AM PST by i.l.e.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

Comment #129 Removed by Moderator

To: NZerFromHK
I never understand why there are no conservatives in the real mega big cities (including the suburbs) in America

We jave a lot of Irish welfare = where the winning party gets to hand out patronage jobs by the millions. Also the welfare clientelle are numerically greater in the inner cities and they are part of the Irish welfare extablishment.

Forty years of entrenched unionism and welfare - all due to the democrat party has developed a sub-class of loyal yellow dog, glass crawling democrat voters in the US cities and universities.

130 posted on 11/04/2004 4:44:18 AM PST by i.l.e.
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

New York City is a hub of Handouts. You see it with every newsstand on the corners, you see it with every taxi ride, you see it at the restaurants. The capitol of the world for getting something for doing nothing is their goal. So why be surprised that they want more, More, MOre, and MORE for no
cost to them. They get about 50% more federal money than they pay in. So what's new about New York Citty.... k2afe


131 posted on 11/04/2004 4:44:22 AM PST by k2afe (Get the U.S. out of the UN and Get the UN out of the U.S.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Larkin Malloy, bows his head reacting to Sen. John Edwards words before John Kerry's concession speech as retired businessman Irv Barocas, right, wipes away tears, Wednesday, Nov. 3, 2004, at Snooky's pub in the Park Slope neighborhood of Brooklyn, New York."

Is Snooky's Pub a gay bar?

132 posted on 11/04/2004 4:45:09 AM PST by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]

To: CWW

I hate to even admit that I was born in that city. It's the American capital of liberal elitism now and the only reason we went to their aid is because we have a Christian compassion that liberal elites will never comprehend and certainly never muster on their own.


133 posted on 11/04/2004 4:53:03 AM PST by wiley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: I'm ALL Right!

"Many choose not to go to the city because they don't want the ultra-high cost of living and the lifestyle of the city. That doesn't make the midwest ignorant, that makes us discerning."




Got that right! When I was very young, I always used to think that it'd be fun to live in a big city when I was little... All the different things to do and places to go.

Now, after spending a year living in Seoul, South Korea (one of the biggest cities on earth), I'd much rather live somewhere where there is grass on the ground instead of concrete. Where I see trees and the birds living in them, not skyscrapers. Where I don't have to worry about whether or not my neighbor will 'express himself' by slamming his head through the apartment wall.

In other words, somewhere in a small town.

Though, as long as I stay in the military, it looks like my options are limited to big cities.

:-(


134 posted on 11/04/2004 4:55:18 AM PST by gogogodzilla
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 73 | View Replies]

To: All

I'm a pretty educated guy. Why is it though that whenever I hear our more "open", "sophisticated" and "cosmopolitain" countrymen speak I am taken back to my sophmore year in college? The sophmore year is the year when, with one year of higher education under the belt, college kids begin to feel themselves omniscient. They go home for vacation and scoff and sneer at their parents ignorance and backwardness and when they get back they laugh with their friends about how stupid the people in their hometown are.

It's only about five or ten years later, after having the stuffing knocked out of them by real life, that their arrogance dies a bitter death and they recognize the basic honor and goodness and wisdom of mom and dad.

New York is the nation's eternal sophmore class. I wish they would grow up.


135 posted on 11/04/2004 4:55:51 AM PST by MMkennedy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 132 | View Replies]

To: CWW
It is absolutely amazing to me after seeing that huge smouldering hile in the ground at World Trade Center Plaza how easily New Yorkers forgot what Bush did for then -- the consoling, the rallying of the nation around New York, the $20 Billion federal GIFT!

We do the same for most foreign countries. How many of the other foreign countries we have helped have shown any gratitude?

136 posted on 11/04/2004 4:57:34 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Vision Thing

Consider that they're mindset is to try to 'understand' and 'relate to' their captures. They'll surrender in a heartbeat.

In fact they already have. That's why they voted for they're philosophical kin; whom they saw as a globalist that would reach out to the enemy and consort with him. Better to surrender than fight is their creed.


137 posted on 11/04/2004 5:04:45 AM PST by wiley
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Lorianne

I make my own Maxwell House – about $0.06 a cup.
If I want a latte or some other fancy coffee I use my cappuccino machine for about a dime a cup.
I can even add a touch of Ireland if I want.


138 posted on 11/04/2004 5:05:02 AM PST by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: hispanarepublicana

thats a keeper. :)


139 posted on 11/04/2004 5:05:04 AM PST by 537cant be wrong (the lib turneraitor)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: CWW
It is absolutely amazing to me after seeing that huge smouldering hile in the ground at World Trade Center Plaza how easily New Yorkers forgot what Bush did for then -- the consoling, the rallying of the nation around New York, the $20 Billion federal GIFT!

From now on I shall describe NYers as stupid. They look at the site of the WTC and vote for Kerry. They have a huge Jewish population and yet they don't support Bush. They live piled on top of one another and think it's normal. They live in a great city yet most adults have never been to the Statue of Liberty. Yet they think we are the dumb ones. ............ S T U P I D !

140 posted on 11/04/2004 5:05:29 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (I early voted 18 Oct 2004 and took a car full with me.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 101-120121-140141-160161-180 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson