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To: eleni121


I am a novice in this discussion, and I'm sure this has been beaten to death before, but can someone here explain to me how evolution and the big bang theory are not subject to the lst and 2nd laws of thermodynamics?


94 posted on 11/07/2004 6:59:43 PM PST by Murp
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How would evolution violate either one?


95 posted on 11/07/2004 7:08:39 PM PST by general_re (Drive offensively - the life you save may be your own.)
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To: Murp
"...how evolution and the big bang theory are not subject to the lst and 2nd laws of thermodynamics?"

Evolutionists are a law unto themselves.

100 posted on 11/07/2004 7:20:02 PM PST by eleni121 (NO more reaching out!)
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If you deny the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, then you can never get the first molecule or atom or subatomic particle produced. If the makeup of the universe has always been present the according to the 2nd law (entropy) it requires that all particle, subatomic elements would not defy the law of entropy and wouold therefore be washed out into a cosmic ocean of nothingness approaching absolute zero,completely vacuous. Unless.....something held it all together. SOMEONE not tied to the universe by cause and effect, SOMEONE separate and distinct from the universe, SOMEONE who is not tied to the universe by the 1st and 2nd Laws of thermodynamics, and can reach down into His universe with love(science), compassion(science?), redemption (science?), justice (science?), and forgiveness (science?)


106 posted on 11/07/2004 7:39:55 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (Texas Songwriter)
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To: Murp
I am a novice in this discussion, and I'm sure this has been beaten to death before, but can someone here explain to me how evolution and the big bang theory are not subject to the lst and 2nd laws of thermodynamics?

Oh, that's an easy one to answer: evolution and the big bang are indeed subject to the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics.

And anticipating your next question, no, they do not violate either law. Only the creationists are under the impression that they do, but then their "understanding" of thermodynamics is as poor as their knowledge of biology and physics, so this is hardly surprising.

206 posted on 11/08/2004 11:29:24 PM PST by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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