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To: Murp

If you deny the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics, then you can never get the first molecule or atom or subatomic particle produced. If the makeup of the universe has always been present the according to the 2nd law (entropy) it requires that all particle, subatomic elements would not defy the law of entropy and wouold therefore be washed out into a cosmic ocean of nothingness approaching absolute zero,completely vacuous. Unless.....something held it all together. SOMEONE not tied to the universe by cause and effect, SOMEONE separate and distinct from the universe, SOMEONE who is not tied to the universe by the 1st and 2nd Laws of thermodynamics, and can reach down into His universe with love(science), compassion(science?), redemption (science?), justice (science?), and forgiveness (science?)


106 posted on 11/07/2004 7:39:55 PM PST by Texas Songwriter (Texas Songwriter)
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To: Texas Songwriter
If you deny the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics,

We don't.

Unless.....something held it all together. SOMEONE not tied to the universe by cause and effect, SOMEONE separate and distinct from the universe, SOMEONE who is not tied to the universe by the 1st and 2nd Laws of thermodynamics, and can reach down into His universe with love(science), compassion(science?), redemption (science?), justice (science?), and forgiveness (science?)

Or not.

Why do you presume that the "something" "holding it all together" is a "SOMEONE" instead of a "something"?

As for cause and effect, there's no indication that it holds at all times under all conditions.

212 posted on 11/09/2004 1:22:00 AM PST by Ichneumon ("...she might as well have been a space alien." - Bill Clinton, on Hillary, "My Life", p. 182)
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