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Kerry defeat leaves stunned Democrats searching for a new Clinton (Warning: Shrillary image.)
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Posted on 11/03/2004 12:29:48 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry

WASHINGTON (AFP) - Scarred from their second defeat at the hands of George W. Bush, the Democratic party will be searching for names who can take on the Republicans in four years. And an obvious one is Clinton.

Many Democrats and experts believe that if Senator John Kerry (news - web sites) had the same charisma as ex-president Bill Clinton (news - web sites) he would have easily taken revenge this week for Bush's controversial defeat of Al Gore (news - web sites) in 2000.

But Hillary Clinton (news - web sites) is the most quoted name for the next contender.

University of Virginia political scientist Larry Sabato believes there are several reasons why Kerry lost Tuesday's vote.

"One, he is too liberal, well to the left of the American mainstream on the critical social and cultural issues such as abortion, gay rights and gun control."

More important for Sabato was personality.

"John Kerry is no Bill Clinton. There is very little warmth there, and people didn't warm to him. A moderate Democratic candidate with personal warmth would have defeated George W. Bush easily."

The new defeat is certain to lead to some painful soul-searching within the Democratic party.

After Bill Clinton's victory in 1992 and re-election in 1996, his vice-president Al Gore was narrowly defeated by Bush in 2000 even though he won the popular vote.

The Democrats were hit hard in 2002 mid-term elections, losing control of the Senate and seeing the Republicans extend their advantage in House of Representatives.

Bush's new victory left a bitter taste for many Democrats who look back to the Clinton years with affection even though the ex-president divided the country with many of his actions.

Bill Clinton electrified a crowd of tens of thousands when he returned from a quadruple heart by-pass to appear at a rally with Kerry eight days before the vote.

Though thinner, Clinton was given rapturous applause after castigating the Bush administration and telling adoring fans "my fellow Americans, we can do better."

Clinton remains wildly popular with core Democratic voters, especially black Americans, a voting bloc Kerry was never able to touch in the same way.

Kerry has been criticized as a one-dimensional campaigner compared to Clinton.

Now Hillary Clinton, the senator for New York state, is likely to dominate the Democratic party debate while she makes up her mind whether to stand.

"Hillary Clinton is the natural heir apparent" of Bill, according to Allan Lichtman, a political science professor at the American University in Washington.

Wildly popular among Democratic loyalists and able to raise vast amounts of campaign funds, Hillary Clinton has "worked very, very hard not to play into a caricature of herself," according to a Democratic party strategist who asked not to be named.

She is however the Democrat that hard-core Republicans most love to hate.

"The Republicans will very happily reverse to a caricature, and she becomes a lot less appealing when she puts herself forward" as a candidate, the strategist said.

So there is an outside chance that the Democratic party's 2008 presidential candidate is a long shot bet.

Barack Obama, a 43-year-old rising star in the party who became the lone black American senator in Tuesday's election, is talked about as a possible future candidate.

The Democrats "need only nominate a moderate candidate with warmth," said Sabato, pointing to figures like telegenic Indiana Senator Evan Bayh.


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To: Leapfrog

2008 will be Hitlery's try for the WH and perhaps Puce Pelosi. If that occurs, I bet Liddy Dole will try in 2008 too.


21 posted on 11/03/2004 12:39:26 PM PST by lilylangtree (Veni, Vidi, Vici)
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To: Leapfrog

One Democrat that was happy about yesterday. It's not too early to start thinking about 2008-you know her shrillness is.


22 posted on 11/03/2004 12:40:02 PM PST by Spok
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To: Leapfrog
The Beast of the East: "Gainin' Weight for 2008!"
23 posted on 11/03/2004 12:42:34 PM PST by quark
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To: Leapfrog

If the Democrats "need only nominate a moderate candidate with warmth" then why in the world would they look to Hitlery in 2008? She never even met either concept.


24 posted on 11/03/2004 12:42:36 PM PST by Malleus Dei ("Communists are just Democrats with less patience.")
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To: Leapfrog

I don't know about presidental material, but I can see her qualification as the dem's VP candidate growing on her lip.


25 posted on 11/03/2004 12:42:50 PM PST by Quilla
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To: Leapfrog

New Clinton

Let's see never got 50% of the vote despite being an incumbent with no war and the MSM kisssin his butt and covering for his scandals

Cost the dems the house and senate in 94

All the candidates he campaigns for loses

Yeah they need a new Clinton


26 posted on 11/03/2004 12:43:27 PM PST by uncbob
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To: Leapfrog

Any party with a first term Senator as leader hasn't much of a lineup, let alone a bench.

A thin line separates Martha and Hillary.


27 posted on 11/03/2004 12:44:06 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Leapfrog
"One, he is too liberal, well to the left of the American mainstream on the critical social and cultural issues such as abortion, gay rights and gun control." Where do you think Hillary stands on these same issues. She may be politically savvy enough to realize that to come out in favor of gun control is to start the election 4 million NRA votes in the hole.
28 posted on 11/03/2004 12:46:09 PM PST by hyperpoly8 (Illegitimati Non Carborundum)
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To: truth_seeker

Folks, I do not vote for a Senator of any party.
Regan said "Washington isn't the solution, it's the problem".
I want GWB's ownership society.


29 posted on 11/03/2004 12:47:05 PM PST by griswold3
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To: prophetic

PLEASE, at the most just one hole.


30 posted on 11/03/2004 12:47:06 PM PST by PeteB570
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To: Leapfrog

My lunch is now all over my keyboard


31 posted on 11/03/2004 12:47:24 PM PST by NRA1995 (The downfall of the mainstream media is the next battleground!!!)
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To: Leapfrog
Barack Obama, a 43-year-old rising star in the party who became the lone black American senator in Tuesday's election, is talked about as a possible future candidate.

He is not electable outside Democratic strongholds. Not even close.

32 posted on 11/03/2004 12:50:12 PM PST by JCEccles
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To: Leapfrog

If Hillary doesn't change her Pro-Choice tune (Yeah, Right! Like THAT Will Happen) She'll be massacred in 2008.

Which realllllly wouldn't be a Bad Thing!

Jack.


33 posted on 11/03/2004 12:52:00 PM PST by Jack Deth (When In Doubt.... Empty The Magazine!)
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To: NRA1995
"My lunch is now all over my keyboard"

Don't say I didn't warn you.


34 posted on 11/03/2004 12:52:51 PM PST by Michael Goldsberry (Which part of "Don't Mess With Texas" didn't you get?)
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To: Mr. K

THIS WAS AN AWESOME YEAR!!! The significance of the victories conservatives scored this election cycle can't be overestimated.


35 posted on 11/03/2004 12:52:57 PM PST by blitzgig
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To: Alberta's Child

And don't forget Terry McAwful - the Clintons' gift that keeps on giving! (laughing)


36 posted on 11/03/2004 12:53:08 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: kezekiel

If she needs to, she'll reinvent herself whether the Michael Moore Left likes it or it not and if they stand in the way, they'll be run over.


37 posted on 11/03/2004 12:54:53 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Leapfrog

NOOOOOO NOT THAT!!!

Now why in the 'H' did you have to go and do that?


38 posted on 11/03/2004 12:57:41 PM PST by crz
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To: Leapfrog
I think the Democrats should run Bill Clinton again. He has a better chance than Hillary.

Of course this means the law would need to be changed to allow another term for this two-term president.

That would also mean that President Bush could run again.

He is my first choice for 2008. Bill Frist seems like a reasonable second at this time (maybe VP? :>) ).
39 posted on 11/03/2004 12:58:50 PM PST by unlearner
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To: Leapfrog

"Get thee hence Satan!"


40 posted on 11/03/2004 12:59:58 PM PST by sheik yerbouty
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