Posted on 11/03/2004 10:31:24 AM PST by Fatalis
Take CNN (please!):
Bush (Incumbent): 743,621 50%
Kerry: 730,067 49%That's about 13,000 votes of 774,000, for a 1.7% margin for Bush.
Bush(Incumbent) 363,369 50%
Kerry: 351,070 49%
That's about 12,000 votes out of 714,000, for a 1.6% margin for Bush.
But...
Kerry: 340,019 50%
Bush(Incumbent): 330,848 49%
That's a 9,000 vote margin of about 671,000 votes between them, for a 1.3% margin for Kerry.
Kerry:1,490,101 50%
Bush (Incumbent): 1,477,405 49%That's about 13,000 votes out of almost 3 million, or a 0.4% margin for Kerry.
So President Bush has bigger margins in Iowa in New Mexico than Kerry has in Wisconsin and New Hampshire, yet Kerry gets the calls while he stalls on nis concession speech.
All four states have 99% of precints reporting, and every state still has provisional and absentee ballots to account.
Nobody wants to have to go out and defend someone again like Brokaw and Jennings had to brace up Rather in September. Besides, we know in our heart of hearts that only NH and WI are within the margins that trip the switch for an automatic recount. IA and NM are well beyond that point with the margins above 0.5%.
last night there was 72,000 absentee ballots and two precints still needing counting in Iowa, they went home and were supposed to start this morning. That more than covers the 13,000 difference in actually votes counted, thats why Iowa hasnt been called, pretty much the same as in New Mexico.
Wisconsin cannot be picked up even if all the absentees went Bush, I here. Same with New Hampshire, no MSM conspircay this time.
Which, in the real world, break more or less the same as those cast in boxes on the day. Absentee votes in fact usually break slightly rightward.
It's just their short attention spans at work, actually. They've moved on, you see, and now must tend to more important duties...
...their resume polishing. :)
286 if nothing changes.
I firmly believe that ALL the media (including FOX) is guilty of stretching it out to keep people watching as long as possible. You are correct, NM and Iowa are both firmly in the red state catagory.
NM has had dirty politics for as long as I can remember, and now we have Bill Richardson for our governor. He learned a lot of dirty tricks from Bill Clinton; however, he knew a bunch of his own.
A state that goes (D) can be called when the numbers show mathematically that the (D) will win.
But a state that goes (R) can ONLY be called when the (D) candidate says it's okay, that he accepts the results, won't litigate, etc. It DOESN'T MATTER what the numbers show, the (D) candidate has to "concede" the state for him to lose that state.
Sheesh. It's so simple. ;-)
Although the media called both New Hampshire and Wisconsin, do we still have a chance of winning them? The margins are very close.
Links?
LOL @ your tag line!
LOL!!! Nice explanation
To an extent they wanted to avoid any early call meltdowns, unlike in 2000. However, I wouldn't have a problem if they wanted to say that all four of those states were still up for grabs, or that all four were decided. It's the absence of a clear standard that's noteworthy.
I agree....we should fight for every vote (who does that sound like?)
The Dims have thrown up every frickin' statistic about 2000 every time Bush tries to do something. We need to have every vote counted so we see a continuous stream of Red (should be Blue) across the South, Lower Midwest, Southwest and Mountain states.
Mandate, mandate, mandate.
Wisconsin would have been nice to have. It was close.
Probably not. The statistical probability of a recount where errors on each side don't cancel each other out is very low. When recounts have disproportionate error rates sufficient to flip an election, there are usually some shenanigans involved. This was the case in Florida in 2000, where Gore gained with each recount. The Dems were cheating, just not all at once. The trick is to keep counting, and finding pretexts to recount, until you can declare victory.
I'll need to see the numbers or a source for that.
I agree that Rove should continue fight for those states -- not only to increase the EV spread, but also to eliminate OH as a deciding factor (muzzle the whiners).
Yeah I noticed she wore black.\
I think Matt's suit was also black (or a very dark blue).
The media wants to deny Bush a "mandate." It won't work. the people have already given him one!
Wisconsin, like all other states, has both absentee and overseas absentee ballots to count. There are also credible reports of significant "over-votes" in Milwaukee.
If only to clean up rampant voter fraud, the Justice department needs to review the fraudulent vote problem in Wisconsin and throughout the United States. I want to see prosecutions!
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