Posted on 11/03/2004 7:03:35 AM PST by 2banana
Pennsylvania Vote:
From CNN: (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/PA/P/00/index.html)
STATUS CANDIDATE VOTE % EV
Kerry 2,868,674 51% 21
Bush (Incumbent) 2,746,856 49% 0
Badnarik 20,902 0% 0
Peroutka 6,426 0% 0
Cobb 6,192 0% 0
Bush lost Pennsylvania by 121,818 votes
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Philadelphia Vote:
From CNN (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/PA/P/00/county.002.html#42101):
Kerry 517,054 80% 97% of precincts reporting
Bush (Incumbent) 124,710 20%
Badnarik 860 0%
Cobb 464 0%
Peroutka 375 0%
Total Philly votes cast: 643,463
So Kerry got 4.14 votes for every 1 Bush vote in Philly (an absolutely astounding number - even heavily democratic Broward Country, Fl only went for Kerry 2:1 and heavily democratic Cook County, IL went for Kerry 2.5:1)
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Philadelphia Voting Population:
From the US Census Bureau: (http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/42/42101.html): Philadelphia County Pennsylvania
Population, 2003 estimate 1,479,339
Population, percent change, April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2003 -2.5%
Population, 2000 1,517,550
Population, percent change, 1990 to 2000 -4.3%
Persons under 5 years old, percent, 2000 6.5%
Persons under 18 years old, percent, 2000 25.3%
Persons 65 years old and over, percent, 2000 14.1%
Female persons, percent, 2000 53.5%
Total age eligible aged persons in Philly : Overall Philly population (1,479,339) - those under 18 (25.3% of 1,479,339) = 1,105,066*
Does not exclude those not eligible to vote by other factors (immigrants, felons, etc.)
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Philadelphia Registered Voters:
Total number of people registered to vote in Philly (http://www.seventy.org/stats/regstats.html) 2001 - 1,011,149
Total number of people registered to vote in Philly (http://www.pennlive.com/politics/patriotnews/index.ssf?/base/news/109698120624990.xml) 2004 - 1,035,395
Total number of people registered to vote in Philly (http://www.phillyburbs.com/pb-dyn/news/103-10042004-376969.html) 2004 - 1,035,395
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Some conclusions:
1. Even as Philadelphia looses population, the number of registered voters continues to increase
2. Nearly every person of voting age is registered to vote (as compared to a national average of 50% by the Census Bureau http://www.census.gov/prod/2002pubs/p20-542.pdf)
3 The total lopsidedness of the vote is an astounding number to believe
4. Either Philadelphia has the most engaged and civic population in the WORLD, or there is massive fraud.
5. The amount of fraud easily exceeds the margin of loss of President Bush. If Bush had won Pennsylvania, it would have been a landslide (no Ohio hand wringing).
Congressman Curt Weldon brought a news camera crew to one of the prisons and they showed four lilly-white college girls leaving the prison and one was carrying a filled-out absentee ballot, which he swiped from her as evidence.
The director of the prison showed up and they asked him what the girls were doing there - he said he "had no idea"! What a way to run a prison! There are four girls roaming around inside the prison and he has no idea why they are there!
Stick Your national ID card. That is not the only way.
WE NEED A NATIONAL VOTER ID REQUIREMENT. IT IS THE ONLY WAY TO ELIMINATE THE MASSIVE FRAUD. THIRD WORLD COUNTRIES CONSIDER US A LAUGHINGSTOCK JUST FOR BEING SO NAIVE ABOUT THIS. YOU ARE, TOO.
Yes, absolutely please check!
Even ONE case of confirmed fraud is enough to send ONE corrupt (democrat) poll supervisor to jail!
OK...Voter Id requirement I can go along with. If I misread what you said before then I am sorry. I am pretty tired. I just don't like the talk I have heard before about Getting National ID cards.
Just require all federal elections to have social security numbers used to check in registered voters and all voter lists to be electronic. Voters without social security numbers but are citizens can vote provisionally.
This would eliminate all dual voting, voting in two states, and so on. Would be easy to implement.
As if identity theft isn't rampant enough...
As if identity theft isn't rampant enough...
BTT
No IDs in PA. Old clunky voting machines. I'm pinging the expert on this, though.
I've already been here. See #5.
I think that requiring ID would do wonders for Philly. It's so strange that it stands out among big cities both in registration percentages and sheer numbers. Of course, Philly is a hole.
The registration is similar here to Baltimore, NYC, Boston, Pittsburgh, Cleveland, Chicago. Its better than Detroit.
We actually have fairly solid Republican neighborhoods in the northeast of the city which form a base of operations.
Damning with faint praise! PA works OK if there are Republican poll watchers at every site. If not, you can get all sorts of shenanigans.
Ummm, math and I are old enemies. How's-a-bout the English version?
Exactly, Satan himself could be the Democrat nominee and would still 80 % of the vote in the city.
Yes, but an unquie ID lets you instantly see that its been voted twice. Thats why a provesional ballot would be filed in such cases, while it is later investigated.
It would be pretty easy to nab people committing voter fraud under this system and throw them in jail. It would catch multiple votes, votes across borders, illegal alien votes, and more.
It is also simple, and requires minimal change. Require a Social Security number to vote, and simple electronic voter registration (not voting, just registration).
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