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DNC threatens Florida poll watchers in legal letter
Democratic National Committee | Nov. 01, 2004 | livius

Posted on 11/01/2004 10:56:48 AM PST by livius

[DNC logo} IMPORTANT LEGAL NOTICE

To all Republican Party Election Day poll watchers:

Your name has been filed to serve as a poll watcher on Election Day, on behalf of the Republican Party or a Republican candidate. The Democratic Party recognizes the legal rights of poll watchers, under Florida Election Law, to perform their lawful duties.

We want to make sure that all poll watchers recognize the importance of their role in this process and understand the repercussions for abusing that role. As a poll watcher, you have the ability to protect one of the most sacred rights of our democracy. Regardless of party affiliation, we can all agree that no citizen should be deprived of their right to vote without good cause. Whatever the outcome on Election Day, the challenge process must not be abused as a means of harrassing or intimidating voters, or of obstructing the ability of lawfully qualified and registered citizens tovote safely, efficiently and conveniently.

You should be aware that, under Florida law, a poll watcher must explain in writing and under oath the basis of a challenge. This affirmation requires that the poll watcher have personal knowledge of the facts upon which the challenge is based.

Florida law provides that a challenger is to be removed from the polling place if his or her activities slow down the voting process or intimidate voters. Indeed, it is a crime under Florida law to be in a polling place to "intimidate, threaten or coerce or attempt to intimidate, threaten, or coerce, any other person for thepurpose of interfering with the right of such person to vote." (Fla. Stat. Sec. 104,0515(3)). Therefore, should a challenger knowingly make a false challenge, that person could be subject to criminal prosecution.

Please be advised that the National Democratic Party and the Florida Democratic Party will insist on strict enforcement of that law. You have now been provided notice of the law, and thus, please govern yourself accordingly.

(Italics and bold in original)


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This is stunning. We poll watchers just received this letter today from the DNC. Unbelievable! Just when you think they can't get any worse.
1 posted on 11/01/2004 10:56:48 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

I believe they sent those here in Ohio too...last night I had a GOP rep call me to see if I had received one.


2 posted on 11/01/2004 10:59:25 AM PST by Sunshine55 (The W stands for WHOOPASS!)
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To: Otta B Sleepin; mariabush; DuoDamsel

Ping to some people who were interested in poll watcher topics earlier. Please ping others, especially anybody you know who is a poll watcher.


3 posted on 11/01/2004 11:00:30 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

I will be pollwatching. You are only suppose to talk to the Poll Clerk who has been doing this for years, years, years. If you have a complaint about something just bring it to the poll clerk's attention, you cannot challenge anyone directely anyway.


4 posted on 11/01/2004 11:01:49 AM PST by TurtleStink
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To: livius

What's the problem? Were people planning to issue baseless challenges? Or challenges based on perceived color of the voter? (Remember is was stuff like that that drove Rice's father over the GOP when the Dems did it.)


5 posted on 11/01/2004 11:02:29 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: livius

Why are people surprised .. the law only applies to repubs .. and the dem's standard mode of operation is INTIMIDATION.


6 posted on 11/01/2004 11:02:39 AM PST by CyberAnt (Election 2004: This election is for the SOUL OF AMERICA)
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To: livius
Poll watcher intimidation? Would that the DNC were so scrupulous about legalities when people showed up to vote.
7 posted on 11/01/2004 11:03:10 AM PST by atomicpossum (If there are two Americas, John Edwards isn't qualified to lead either of them.)
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8 posted on 11/01/2004 11:06:02 AM PST by Main Street (Stuck in traffic.)
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To: livius

It's called intimidation. I guess it's ok for them to try to intimidate poll watchers with threats of legal action. Well, guess what DemWIPES ... we've got lawyers too.


9 posted on 11/01/2004 11:08:09 AM PST by TexasGreg ("Democrats Piss Me Off")
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To: livius
Regardless of party affiliation, we can all agree that no citizen should be deprived of their right to vote without good cause.

Well, I'm a poll watcher tomorrow and I couldn't agree more.

Good cause certainly includes:

  1. Not having a valid voter's registration card
  2. Not having a valid photo identification with signature
  3. Any person or persons who may be decieving any election official (e.g., having an id with a Birth Date of 1/1/1920, but the person at the poll is 20 years old)
  4. Refusing to sign the affadavits required to be signed in cases where identification or other issues are present
If people are registered to vote, have their picture ID with signature, and abide by the election laws and rules, then I don't see what the problem will be.

I will note that if the democrats weren't famous for having dead people vote, having voter registration activists register "Mickey Mouse", "Mary Poppins", and the like, having voter registration rolls hundreds of thousands over the actual populations of the given counties, etc., then these watching wouldn't be necessary.

So, if it weren't for all of these situations, I'm fairly sure that we wouldn't have to do this. Unfortunately because of that, we do.

10 posted on 11/01/2004 11:08:28 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: livius

How is reminding you of the law a threat? It is crass certainly, but would you expect anything else from the DNC?


11 posted on 11/01/2004 11:09:09 AM PST by green iguana
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To: mattdono

And, I should echo FREEPER TurtleSink's comments. Procedurally, it is correct that no poll watcher will challenge the voter in any way. The proper procedure is to alert the precinct captain/clerk as to possible discrepancies.


12 posted on 11/01/2004 11:10:18 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: livius

Hey Rats - 4Q.


13 posted on 11/01/2004 11:12:26 AM PST by Denver Ditdat (Ronald Reagan belongs to the ages now, but we preferred it when he belonged to us.)
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To: livius

Stunning? Yes. Surprising? No.


14 posted on 11/01/2004 11:13:04 AM PST by Born Conservative (20 years of votes can tell you much more about a man than 20 weeks of campaign rhetoric-Zell Miller)
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To: green iguana
TexasGreg had it right. It is a form of intimidation. No one wants to be sued. And, it will cost the democrats nothing to file, en masse, a lawsuit against every poll watcher that signs up.

Most hard-working people wouldn't have the money to afford a lawyer.

The demoCREEPs are hoping that they 1) intimidate them from going altogether or 2) intimidate them from doing anything when they are there (i.e., rightfully challenging an inapproriate vote, such as not being a registered voter).

It's crass. But, it is intimidation too. It's, perhaps, a subtle threat, but it's a threat no less.

15 posted on 11/01/2004 11:14:14 AM PST by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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To: livius

Any and all 'legal' letters generated by the zealots in the Kerry campaign should be ignored. At this point they are desparate and will say and do anything. They will send out mass mailings of threatening letters. They didn't choose the unqualified John Edwards for nothing. They have a strange belief that they can litigate their way into the white house, despite the wishes of the voters.


16 posted on 11/01/2004 11:14:54 AM PST by orangelobster
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To: livius

This reminds me of the terrorists when they scream, "It's a Holy site" in order to protect weapons caches and God knows what else.


17 posted on 11/01/2004 11:15:11 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: livius

Translation: You may look (with your blindfolds on), but don't mumble a word, question anything you do see, get anywhere near voting booths, or question all the extra ballots that are being wheelbarrow dumped into the voting boxes.


18 posted on 11/01/2004 11:15:31 AM PST by Sleeping Freeper
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To: livius

Send this on to John Gibson Fox News and any others you can think of!!


19 posted on 11/01/2004 11:15:44 AM PST by nannaj34
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To: nannaj34

It's a 'nuanced' threat.


20 posted on 11/01/2004 11:21:41 AM PST by Stashiu ( Yeah, I am a Vietnam Vet, not a War Criminal.)
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