Shame on You America

Hannity Board ^ | Oct 31, 2004 | Bob Hynneman

[Bob Hyneman]

Today marks day fifty since the Beslan school massacre. Fifty days after Sept 11th the bombing of Afghanistan had barely begun.

What would you have tought THEN of "allies" who had pretty mcuh forgotten that it ever happened?

What would you have thought if the average French, Russians, and English couldn't even name the mastermind behind the attacks, or were completely unaware that the same organization had carried multiple attacks since then, including two within the past twenty-four hours?

Is this a global war on terror or is that just a political talking point?

Has anyone spent one-tenth the time energy and anguish regarding Beslan they demanded of the rest of the world regarding Sept. 11th?

Here, start with these.

1. Twin car bombs injure 13 in Russia's Chechnya

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L31614991.htm

[quote]31 Oct 2004 09:13:28 GMT Source: Reuters GROZNY, Russia, Oct 31 (Reuters) - Two car bombs injured 13 people in the capital of Russia's Chechnya on Sunday, medical staff and officials said. The first explosion hit a convoy of cars carrying pro-Moscow police at 7.40 a.m. (0430 GMT). The second hit the main city hospital 45 minutes later as the wounded were brought in, injuring civilians including a doctor. *****

2. Chechen warlord warns of more civilian targets, willingness to fight Russia for a decade

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20041031-1126-russia-chechnya.html

[quote]11:26 a.m. October 31, 2004 MOSCOW – Chechen warlord ***Shamil Basayev, who claimed responsibility for last month's Beslan school hostage-taking,*** warned Sunday that he was ready to fight Russia for a decade and insisted civilians remained a fair target. ******

3. Beslan Girl Gets Free Eye Implant in New York

http://www.mosnews.com/news/2004/10/29/beslansurgery.shtml

Created: 29.10.2004 11:47 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 11:47 MSK MosNews [quote]Ten-year-old Anna Kadalaeva, who lost an eye in September’s Beslan school hostage crisis, was flown to New York City Thursday for surgery to get an eye implant.

The operation will take place Friday and will be performed pro bono by The New York Eye and Ear Infirmary in Manhattan, according to a press release from the International Foundation for Terror Act Victims, which has been raising money for Beslan victims.

[JesseJane]

Note to MSM: Russia is PO'd that you ignore the true face of evil to get your guy elected.. Ohhhhhhhh... thats right, it's just a nuisance.

[Sockdologer]

If we were like our "Allies" we'd be insulting Russians for calling attention to their tragedy, dancing in the streets and telling them they deserved it, instead of helping
give victims of the tragedy free eye transplants.

[faithincowboys]

Screw Russia. I seem to remember them sending their Generals into Iraq before the war. And the old Cold War Generals had worked with the Iraqis to develop the insurgency. As far as I'm concerned, Russia can go screw itself.

[pipecorp]

I know I sent a thank you card to puty put putin after all the aid he sent us for 9/11, and for assisting us in afghanistan and iraq.

[eagle11]

Stole my thunder....

[Bahbah]

"Is this a global war on terror or is that just a political talking point?"

It is a war for us. I wonder if the Russian people would like to join in. We have yet to hear the answer.

[Fruitbat]

If we were like our "Allies" we'd be insulting Russians for calling attention to their tragedy, dancing in the streets and telling them they deserved it, instead of helping give victims of the tragedy free eye transplants.

We'd also be working behind their backs to assist the terrorists in doing it again or worse yet, to someone else!

[JesseJane]

Sorry 'bout that cheif!! :)

[eagle11]

Don't get steamed at the Russians....get even with our MSM for censoring stories to help their guy.

[Laptop_Ron]

What happened in Russia was a deplorable thing. However, this ire might be a bit displaced. After 9/11, Russia decided to sit on it's hands instead of helping to fight the war on terror. We are learning that they did so because they were profiting from Hussein's regime.
It seems that Russian leadership should be ashamed and not the U.S. I guess when money wins out over principle, bad things happen. May what happened in Russia never happen again.

[Proud Conservative2]

Bite me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[arasina]

Will you be commenting on this thread you posted? Are the posts to the "Hannity board" yours or someone else's?

Shame on America? For what? Isn't fighting terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan an attempt to stop its spread? Do the Russian people want American troops in their country? Can someone please splain this to me?

[ArmyBratproud]

Yep...

[Bob Hyneman]

Yes I will be commenting from time to time although the Freep site is not really a debate site.

Yes, I posted the original on the Hannity Board and dutifully marked this piece as Op-Ed/ Vanity. Freep is great palce to post and read the news, better still because the occaisional Op-ed piece from freepers and visitors can also be posted.

later I will post my thoughts about what our political leaders should be doing are below.
My main purpose was to shame my fellow "neocons" into
- deciding to learn more about Shamil Basayev and his murderous thugs and
- uniting with others (including russia) for Basayev's destruction no less than we expect the rest of the world to unite behind us for the destruction of Osama's and the forty-four other terrorist groups who have attacked American targets in the past 15 years.

Clearly if we the American people cannot unite with the Russians on this issue, then we demonstrate that what we demand of the people of Germany and Russia and France (set aside differences, unite to destroy terrorists) is unreasonable.

I for one, am a true-blooded, died-in-the wool supporter of the War on Terror, and I (for one) am willing to overlook our differences with Russia and do all the things I expect the Russians, the French etc. to do. I, for one, truly believe that stuff about setting aside our differences and uniting.

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FACT
Over 200 Chechan "separatists" were caught by coalition forces fighting in Afghanistan to defend Osama bin Laden and the Taliban.

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[Jackson Brown]

Clearly if we the American people cannot unite with the Russians on this issue, then we demonstrate that what we demand of the people of Germany and Russia and France (set aside differences, unite to destroy terrorists) is unreasonable.

Then let Russia reach out like we did to them.

I don't think WE will work to block them in the Security Council...as they did! I don't think WE would be having government officials taking money to help the mass murders...as they did!
I don't think that WE would work to hurt their currency a week before WE have the most important election of a life time...as they did!

Let them give us a call...with some offers to help make up a bit for what they did to us in hand.

[JasonC]

"It's all Bush's fault!"

What is? Everything. Don't you know what "all" means? Duh.

[JasonC]

"to shame my fellow "neocons""

You can't. First you have to get Putin to stop giving nuclear technology to nutjobs in Iran. (Crickets chirp). Oh.

[A Real Dan Fan... NOT]

Shame on us for having the balls to take on terrorists in their own backyard in response to 9/11?

Is there anyone on the planet that does not know what our response to a school takeover by terrorists would be?

Let me give you Dems out there a tip.

Allah had better have a hell of a lot of virgins on standby.

Pity the Russians are too worried about world opinion to take the fight to the Chechens.

[kaylar]

When Russia ratified Kyoto, they declared war on the USA IMO. I agree wholeheartedly with your sentiments.