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Tomorrow's Zogby poll to show Kerry up by 1
National Review ^ | 10/29

Posted on 10/29/2004 10:58:12 PM PDT by ambrose

I HEAR [KJL]

Zogby's latest will have Kerry up one nationwide, but Bush not doing bad in most battlegrounds, save for Florida (Florida where Bush internals are giving Bushies confidence).


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Zogby will show Kerry “surging” in his polls this weekend. Last ditch effort to manipulate things. Then if he sees Kerry is going to lose, he’ll show a “dramatic last minute surge” for Bush. The guy is an assclown.
1 posted on 10/29/2004 10:58:12 PM PDT by ambrose
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To: ambrose

Zogby wants Kerry to win so badly that he will make his polls show that he is. I believe Gallup, Fox Opinion Poll but not Zogby ever.


2 posted on 10/29/2004 10:59:44 PM PDT by Merry
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To: ambrose

Yep. Time to pull out the 'zogby special sauce' graphic.


3 posted on 10/29/2004 11:00:24 PM PDT by flashbunny (Every thought that enters my head requires its own vanity thread.)
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To: Merry

Forget Zogby. Wait for the final TIME and Gallup polls. They should be dead on within a few percentage points of predicting the winner's final results on Election Day.


4 posted on 10/29/2004 11:01:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ambrose

When did he settle on his numbers in 2000. When was his last poll -- the one that everyone says was so prescient?


5 posted on 10/29/2004 11:01:37 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: ambrose

Zogster had Gore winning pre DUI announcement. I always add at least two points to any of his numbers.


6 posted on 10/29/2004 11:02:08 PM PDT by Names Ash Housewares
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To: ambrose
Zogby has this model that keeps the partisan affiliations constant, and then twists it a bit based on mysterious factors. But his last poll will be his best effort. It's Zogby's bread and butter, and that won't be deflected by his deep desire to get Kerry elected. Zogby needs to be able to afford to send his kids to the Ivy League, comfortably, and to get them the hell out of Oneida County.
And he has not reached a sufficient critical mass yet to do that.
7 posted on 10/29/2004 11:02:19 PM PDT by Torie
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To: goldstategop

The LAST Zogby poll will probably be fairly close too... but we'll have to endure Zogby's usual last minute gyrations in the meantime.


8 posted on 10/29/2004 11:02:38 PM PDT by ambrose (A vote for Kerry is a vote for bin Laden)
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To: Merry

He just wants to have another love affair with John Stewart.


9 posted on 10/29/2004 11:02:44 PM PDT by april15Bendovr
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To: flashbunny

Ditto


10 posted on 10/29/2004 11:02:55 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: ambrose

Zogby is going to lose any reputation he had after this election. Next election I hope we just ignore Zogby and his manipulated polls.


11 posted on 10/29/2004 11:03:30 PM PDT by Moconservative
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To: ambrose

I'm starting to look at Zogby the same way I look at toilet paper.


12 posted on 10/29/2004 11:03:38 PM PDT by bushisdamanin04
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To: Merry

When is Gallup's final out?!

That's probably the one to go by. If it shows bad, we'll have to get used to kerry.


13 posted on 10/29/2004 11:03:44 PM PDT by Kornev
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To: faithincowboys

Monday October 30 6:47 PM ET

Bush Leads in Reuters Poll, But Gore Rises in Key States

By Alan Elsner, Political Correspondent

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Republican George W. Bush (news - web sites) kept his three-point lead over Democrat Al Gore (news - web sites) in Monday's Reuters/MSNBC national daily tracking poll, but separate surveys of nine key battleground states showed Gore making inroads.

The state polls showed Gore widening his lead in Florida, overtaking Bush in Pennsylvania and closing the gap in his home state of Tennessee.

The national survey of 1,213 likely voters in the Nov. 7 election, conducted Friday to Monday by pollster John Zogby, found the Texas governor with 45 percent and the vice president with 42 percent, unchanged from Sunday's results. Eight days remain until the Nov. 7 election.

Green Party nominee Ralph Nader (news - web sites) polled 5 percent; Reform Party candidate Pat Buchanan (news - web sites) stayed at 1 percent; Libertarian Harry Browne (news - web sites) had 1 percent, and the rest remained undecided.

The race remained well within the statistical margin of error of plus or minus three percentage points. A candidate would have to be more than six points in the lead to be outside that zone of uncertainty -- something neither man has achieved since the poll began on Sept. 29.

In the equally tight race for the House of Representatives, voters preferred the Republicans by one point. The Democrats need a net gain of seven seats to regain control from the Republicans after six years in the minority.

In a race this close, national polls cannot predict a winner because the election is likely to be decided in key swing states. Reuters and MSNBC are conducting daily tracking polls in nine such battleground states, polling around 600 likely voters in each over three days. These state samples each have a margin of error of plus or minus four percentage points.

The results showed Gore had expanded his lead in the key state of Florida to 11 percentage points, outside the margin of error. Many analysts believe that is a must-win state for Bush.

Gore also had an eight-point lead in Wisconsin and a six-point lead in Illinois. He was ahead by a single point in Washington state and Michigan and took a three-point lead in Pennsylvania, reversing a Bush lead of three points the previous day.

Bush's lead in Gore's home state of Tennessee narrowed to four points from seven. He led by five points in Ohio, and by a single point in Missouri.

In total, 153 votes in the Electoral College are up for grabs in those nine states. At the moment, Gore would win 110 and Bush would take 43 of those votes.

These are the complete state-by-state results for Monday:

Bush Gore Nader Electoral Votes Florida 40 51 4 25 Illinois 41 47 4 22 Michigan 44 45 4 18 Missouri 46 45 4 11 Ohio 48 43 3 21 Pennsylvania 43 46 3 23 Tennessee 49 45 2 11 Washington 44 45 6 11 Wisconsin 41 49 4 11

A total of 270 electoral votes are needed to be elected president. Most analysts believe both candidates have definitely secured about 200, leaving some 138 to be fought over.

The state polls also measured five tough Senate races. It found Republican Rick Lazio (news - web sites) leading first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites) in New York, 48-43 percent.

In Missouri, the late Gov. Mel Carnahan (news - web sites), who died in a plane crash on Oct. 16 but whose name still appears on the ballot, is ahead of Republican incumbent Sen. John Ashcroft, 49-43 percent. His widow said on Monday she would serve in his place if he were elected.

In Florida, Democrat Bill Nelson was 11 points ahead of Republican Bill McCollum and seemed poised to capture a Republican-held seat.

In Michigan, Republican incumbent Spence Abraham trailed Democratic challenger Debbie Stabenow by two points.

In Washington, Republican incumbent Slade Gorton held a four-point lead over Democrat Maria Cantwell.

In the national poll, 83 percent said they were unlikely to change their minds before Election Day. Forty-one percent have ruled out voting for Bush and 43 percent for Gore.

Men backed Bush, 50-37 percent; women preferred Gore by 47-41 percent as the electorate continued to show a substantial gender gap.

Reuters and MSNBC will release a new poll every day at 6:30 p.m. (2330 GMT) until the election.


14 posted on 10/29/2004 11:04:07 PM PDT by ambrose (A vote for Kerry is a vote for bin Laden)
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To: flashbunny

If things hold true to form, Kerry will be leading by Monday in most tracking polls due to weekend polling. The best thing to do is to expect it and not be too worried. It is now down to turn out.


15 posted on 10/29/2004 11:04:18 PM PDT by Texasforever (Kerry has more positions on Iraq than the Kama Sutra)
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To: ambrose

16 posted on 10/29/2004 11:04:39 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: bushisdamanin04

Don't flatter him!!!


17 posted on 10/29/2004 11:04:56 PM PDT by PISANO (Never Forget 911!! or 911's First Heroes "Beamer, Glick, Bingham & Bennett.")
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To: ambrose

Wait until Monday after the Laden tape sinks in.
Kerry is not winning Tuesday.


18 posted on 10/29/2004 11:05:17 PM PDT by snarkytart
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To: ambrose
I did believe Zogby's polls but he has injected opinion far too much to be trusted so I'll stick to Gallup and a variety of secondary tier polls.
19 posted on 10/29/2004 11:06:09 PM PDT by Porterville (NEED SOME WOOD?)
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To: Torie

His state polling has always been fairly atrocious, but he seems to stay in business by getting the national popular vote.

Unlike a Gallup, Zogby refuses to reveal his methodology, or even leave his call sheets up for audits. He literally can make up whatever numbers he feels like.

Gallup may be wrong, but the process they use to arrive at their numbers is all out in the open.


20 posted on 10/29/2004 11:06:11 PM PDT by ambrose (A vote for Kerry is a vote for bin Laden)
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