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THEY FOUND THE PERSON WHO GAVE KERRY HIS OTHER THAN HONORABLE DISCHARGE!! (Swiftboat Vets)
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Posted on 10/29/2004 10:52:29 AM PDT by wvromania

Navy chief on Swiftvets.com is saying they FOUND IT!!


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bush; conspiracy; damnit; discharge; dishonorable; honorable; houseboy; karlrovesupergenius; keptman; kerry; kerrydischarge; manchuriancandidate; militarydischarge; napalminthemorning; navychief; paranoia; sbv; swiftboat; swiftboatvets; toolate; zombie
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To: Nov3

most likely because they mention it was linked to FR, thus making their servers overload as DUummies also caught wind of this thread.....you can see this by above posts.


641 posted on 10/29/2004 1:00:14 PM PDT by wvromania
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To: js1138
On a different SB thread:

Powerline has gotten the message!! (sorry if duplicate)News on Kerry's Discharge?

I can't count the number of emails we've gotten from readers on the apparent mystery surrounding John Kerry's discharge from the Navy. There has been suspicion, but no hard evidence, that his original discharge was less than honorable, and that is why he refuses to make his military records public.

It appears that the Swift Boat Vets may finally have broken through on this issue:

Okay, folks.
We got it finally. We have the Former Secretary of the Navy who stated, "Yes, Kerry did receive an Other Than Honorable Discharge".

Stay tuned for more...

RESPONSE: We have been advised that material was recently posted to this forum referencing the nature of John Kerry's discharge from the military service. That material has been deleted from this forum.

Yes, it's locked down.


642 posted on 10/29/2004 1:01:36 PM PDT by BP2
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To: stockpirate

i guess with everyone on FR, and even the DUmmies checking it out they thought they should put it on hold for a while. I BET THEIR SERVER WAS A HUMM'IN.


643 posted on 10/29/2004 1:02:02 PM PDT by wvromania
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To: PhiKapMom; dixiechick2

Clarification: I know Kerry didn't release all his records. But the MSM has uncritically reported his claims otherwise, so, IMO, I suspect most people think Kerry did release all his records.


644 posted on 10/29/2004 1:02:02 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: RogerWilko
I've only been to a dem spot a couple of times..I couldn't make myself stay for more than a minute or two...

When I shook off the dims...I shook them off altogether.

645 posted on 10/29/2004 1:03:17 PM PDT by processing please hold (All I ever need to know about Islam, I learned on 9-11)
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To: All
FYI--  Swift Vets Pull Kerry "less than honorable" thread read it all.
646 posted on 10/29/2004 1:03:28 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the Trackball into the Dawn of Information...)
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To: Angry Write Mail
Why now and not six months ago?

Navy Chief has been working to get the info for at least that long. This stuff isn't right out in the open and easily found. His info and documents are usually given to Thomas Lipscomb at the NY Sun.

647 posted on 10/29/2004 1:03:56 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (Save a Democrat! Vote Republican!)
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To: mh
Well, to see if this charge has legs, the Former SecNav has to make a public statement. We can only wait and see if this is true or a ruse.
648 posted on 10/29/2004 1:04:25 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: BP2

One more possibility: someone hacked Navy Chief's password and posted a bogus story.

I have not had much hope for this story from the beginning. It could be true, but without heavy authentication, it's a dud.


649 posted on 10/29/2004 1:05:20 PM PDT by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: BP2
We have been advised that material was recently posted to this forum referencing the nature of John Kerry's discharge from the military service. That material has been deleted from this forum.

They already got a complaint and a threat? Must be nervous...but who?

650 posted on 10/29/2004 1:05:30 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Eagerly waiting for more info.


651 posted on 10/29/2004 1:05:35 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Feeling so much calmer now I've cancelled my cable TV. Don't miss the Demopuke spin on cable news.)
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To: Hawkeye
Just passing through the thread and saw this the first time. Didn't put the legs + legs = Legs. :)

Thanks!

652 posted on 10/29/2004 1:07:25 PM PDT by harbinger of doom (God raises up rulers and sets them down. God, please sit Kerry down. Amen)
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To: stockpirate

Unfortunately I do
http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15171


653 posted on 10/29/2004 1:07:38 PM PDT by Nov3 (Is it just me or has correct titling, formating, and linking of posts become a lost art?)
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To: Oreo Kookey
Is that Bush wood? :)

No, this is Bushwood...

;^)

654 posted on 10/29/2004 1:07:47 PM PDT by Constitution Day (I don't know where the sunbeams end and the starlights begin, it's all a mystery...)
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To: Shermy

Check here:

http://conservativevoice.blogspot.com/


655 posted on 10/29/2004 1:08:51 PM PDT by maggief (... riots afterwards ... Liz Edwards, "...not if we win.")
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To: Fedora

If those are the standard Navy tests given to all Naval personnel then above 50 represents above average with 75 being the maximum score one can achieve. So it looks like he is kinda stupid.....which we already knew.


656 posted on 10/29/2004 1:08:57 PM PDT by El Gran Salseron (It translates as the Great, Big Salsa Dancer, nothing more. :-))
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To: Shermy

Kerry huyas noyt released his records and is a traitor.


657 posted on 10/29/2004 1:10:17 PM PDT by rpavlock
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To: MarineBrat
Which is exactly what got Navy Chief latched onto the story. Kerry wasn't "scheduled" to get discharged in 1978. His actual discharge would have been before that, based on his term of enlistment. The one that happened in 1978 was "in addition to" his alreay existing discharge.

Not so. Although I wholeheartedly agree that Kerry needs to sign an SF 180 authorizing the release of his military records, I don't think there is an issue concerning his Honorable Discharge. Based on my personal experience, Kerry received his Honorable Discharge under the standard process, which obtains for naval officers transitioning through the Reserve process.

On July 1, 1972 Kerry was transferred from the Inactive Reserves (subject to recall, but no drill obligation), to the Standby Reserves. Similarly, I was transferred into the Standby Reserves in November 1972 after resigning my commission and being released from active duty in November of that year. I did not receive my Honorable Discharge until Feb 16, 1978, the same date as Kerry. I received the same letter as Kerry.

The Navy has a board, which meets annually I believe, that decides what officers should be retained in the Standby Reserves or removed and given an Honorable Discharge. The decision is based on skills and Navy personnel requirements. Officers are involuntarily separated as a standard procedure. I think you are reading to much into the Clayton letter, which contains boilerplate language.

The story about Kerry's Reserve status should be about his activities in the antiwar movement, including meeting in Paris with the Vietnamese Communists while still being a member of the Naval Reserves subject to recall. Initially, Kerry's website listed his military service as 1966-1970 --Active Duty and 1972-1972--Navy Reserves. This was revised to the current timeline, John Kerry for President - John Kerry's Service Timeline, which contains some questionable entries and his meant to obscure his status during the period 1970-2.

Kerry's new timeline states that January 3 Kerry requested a discharge. This is incorrect. Kerry was released from active duty on Jan 3, 1972 and transferred into the Inactive Reserves.

Kerry's new timeline also lists March 1, 1970 as his "date of separation from active duty." This is clearly incorrect. Finally, they use the date of April 29, 1970 to indicate that Kerry was a "Registrant who has completed service." This designation means that Kerry is no longer subject to the draft. Obviously, the Kerry campaign is deliberately trying to create the impression that Kerry was out of the Service entirely after April 1970. No mention is even made of his Reserve status or Honorable Discharge. This is being done because Kerry realizes he is vulnerable to criticism concerning his participation in the antiwar movement while still a member of the Naval Reserves subject to recall.

658 posted on 10/29/2004 1:10:18 PM PDT by kabar
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To: diogenes ghost

I don't know but here is the link.

http://www2.swiftvets.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=15171

Prove it false. I would love it. Maybe they are working on a strategy to break this.


659 posted on 10/29/2004 1:10:23 PM PDT by Nov3 (Is it just me or has correct titling, formating, and linking of posts become a lost art?)
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To: Nov3

Sounds like Chief oversteped his bounds.


660 posted on 10/29/2004 1:12:14 PM PDT by stockpirate (Kerry; supported by, financed by, trained by, guided by, revered by, in favor of, Communists.)
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