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Black Watch senior officers question No 10 Iraq strategy (crying in their beer)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/10/29/nirq29.xml ^ | 10/29/04 | Michael Smith

Posted on 10/28/2004 6:13:45 PM PDT by dinok

Senior officers with the Black Watch battle group sent north to replace American soldiers believe that the Government agreed to send them there without properly understanding the risks the troops face.

They said the United States marines they were replacing had suffered more than 200 casualties, including nine dead, since July.

"We expect every lunatic terrorist from miles around to descend on us like bees to honey," a high-ranking officer said in an e-mail home this week.

Speaking at Basra before boarding an aircraft, 19-year-old Pte Manny Lynch, from Fife, admitted that he was nervous.

"We have controlled the situation down here while the Americans seem to have ruined it up there."

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackwatch; blackwatchregiment; iraq; uktroops
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Well laddy, its time you earned some real war stories to excagerate over a beer at the pub.
1 posted on 10/28/2004 6:13:46 PM PDT by dinok
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"We expect every lunatic terrorist from miles around to descend on us like bees to honey,"

Well then, KILL THEM.

2 posted on 10/28/2004 6:16:00 PM PDT by craig_eddy
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"Well then, KILL THEM."

I don't think it occured to him...no wonder why they are deactivating this unit. In WWII my dad said the skirt boys in the black watch were tough...these guys seem whipped before they got to the front.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 6:21:00 PM PDT by dinok
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It seems the kilts have become skirts.


4 posted on 10/28/2004 6:24:08 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (God is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: dinok

Yeah I thought this Black Watch bunch was supposed to be tough. This boy was just 19 and whineing like a little girl?


5 posted on 10/28/2004 6:24:18 PM PDT by southernerwithanattitude (new and improved redneck)
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To: dinok

The girlie men are heard from.


6 posted on 10/28/2004 6:25:11 PM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: dinok

I thought the Black watch were supposed to be tough


7 posted on 10/28/2004 6:26:09 PM PDT by chemical_boy
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What's wrong with these guys? I thought their nickname was the "ladies from hell".

Is the pantyhose under their kilt too tight?


8 posted on 10/28/2004 6:27:33 PM PDT by duckbutt ( Warning: Dates in calendar are closer than they appear)
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I thought their nickname was the "ladies from hell".

No...now its just ladies.


9 posted on 10/28/2004 6:33:46 PM PDT by dinok
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They will give the French a good name...


10 posted on 10/28/2004 6:34:52 PM PDT by dinok
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To: dinok

You're soldiers - deal with it.


11 posted on 10/28/2004 6:38:43 PM PDT by Smoote
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this is from the same paper that gives out a free copy of, get this,......the New York Times......every Thursday.

They have lost the plot, ever since Conrad Black lost control.


12 posted on 10/28/2004 6:42:18 PM PDT by crazycat
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I think, hope once they are in place, they will do ok. It is a pretty bad area. But I am sure some Marines had stayed behind to bring their advanced group fully up on things. Surely they have similiar fire power for cordon and search and recon type patrols. I bet it is the patrol aspect tht is bugging them. Now they have to send platoons out into a new area that is known to often harvest insurgents. I wish them well.


13 posted on 10/28/2004 6:43:45 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (.)
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To: dinok

Oh boo hoo, we might get hurt, lets go home.


14 posted on 10/28/2004 6:44:46 PM PDT by cynicom (<p)
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To: Smoote
"You're soldiers - deal with it."

Correction...they were soldiers.

15 posted on 10/28/2004 6:47:44 PM PDT by dinok
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With this attitude the terrorists will have them for lunch.

They should have told everyone that they were glad to go to the Triangle so they can do some legal killing. Guerrilla war is 80% psychology.
16 posted on 10/28/2004 6:55:08 PM PDT by dinok
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American Forces have shouldered the burden of the fight in Iraq. Our Allies and Contractors have held lots of ground not contested on a daily basis. These poor wretched souls who complain can take comfort, again, that it is the Americans who will do the fighting in F-town.... and then they will, again, be safer due to the elimination of yet another contested area in Iraq's midst!


17 posted on 10/28/2004 7:00:13 PM PDT by Jumper
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""We expect every lunatic terrorist from miles around to descend on us like bees to honey,""

Heh. Reverse psychology. "Appear weak. Attract villains. Wipe out same." A form of Strategery that works every time it's tried.

18 posted on 10/28/2004 7:04:12 PM PDT by redhead (The start of the middle is the end of the road for the beginning.”--Yogi Berra)
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Ya know? If 99 guys said something positive or nothing at all and one or 2 said something negative - guess what gets the press. C'mon - this is a Great Unit. Reserve comment until after the fact. Speculation/opinions is like lower sphincters - everybody has one.


19 posted on 10/28/2004 7:04:26 PM PDT by Bobibutu
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I appreciate their help and I'm pretty certain they are tough enough to handle what comes along. Good luck to them and bad luck to those that cross them over there.


20 posted on 10/28/2004 7:04:31 PM PDT by HurricaneD
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