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Petaluma women's gym faces bias suit
The Press Democrat ^ | October 28, 2004 | STEVE HART

Posted on 10/28/2004 9:24:19 AM PDT by Tamar1973

In a case that could affect women's health clubs across California, the state filed a lawsuit accusing a Petaluma women's fitness center of sex discrimination.

The lawsuit in Sonoma County Superior Court alleges Elan Fitness Center fails to provide "full and equal accommodations" for men, in violation of the state's civil rights law.

The suit stems from a discrimination complaint filed last year by a Santa Rosa man who said he was discouraged from joining the fitness club.

The state Department of Fair Employment and Housing said Phillip Kottle was the victim of discrimination because of his gender . The department is seeking a court order requiring Elan Fitness to provide equal services and facilities for men.

The case could test a 1995 state Supreme Court decision that limits the ability of private organizations to discriminate on the basis of sex or race.

The ruling said private clubs that operate as businesses are subject to state laws that prohibit discrimination.

Albert Cordova, attorney for Elan Fitness, said the Sonoma County case could affect large chains of women's health clubs, a growing niche in the multimillion-dollar fitness industry.

Marin County-based Elan Fitness operates health clubs in San Anselmo and Petaluma.

"Here, they are picking on a very small club," Cordova said. "But this has potential ramifications for the larger folks."

Elan Fitness owner Joyce Brown couldn't be reached for comment.

All-female fitness clubs are popular with women who don't want to be ogled by men while they're exercising, supporters said. They say there are plenty of co-ed clubs for men.

Cordova said Elan Fitness had no written policy about admitting men because it was never an issue.

"There had been virtually no inquiries by men," he said.

He said other women's health clubs have varying policies about admitting men.

In his complaint to the state civil rights agency, Kottle said he went to the Petaluma fitness club in July 2003 to ask about a $99 membership offer.

He said the manager told him that men can use the club only one day a week. Another club representative said women can use the facilities at any time, Kottle complained.

He said he also was told that monthly fees are the same for men and women.

When contacted at his Santa Rosa home this week, Kottle declined to comment, saying he hasn't seen the state's lawsuit.

Cordova wouldn't respond to the specifics of Kottle's complaint but said Elan Fitness wants to settle the dispute by giving men full access to the club's classes and facilities, with the exception of lockers and showers.

He said Elan Fitness doesn't have separate lockers and showers for men.

"We don't believe the law would require it," Cordova said.

Nelson Chan, an attorney for the Department of Fair Employment and Housing, didn't return several calls seeking comment.

In the lawsuit, he alleged Elan Fitness "maintained a business practice that excluded all men from enjoying the full and equal access to accommodations, advantages, facilities, privileges and services" at the club.

In addition to a court order opening the club to men on an equal basis, the lawsuit seeks unspecified punitive damages and an administrative fine.

It also seeks an order requiring the Petaluma club to adopt a policy against sexual harassment and implement an anti-discrimination training program for employees.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: bias; discrimination; equality; goosegander; lawsuit; mensrights; schadenfreude; womensrights
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Ladies, you had to know this was coming. Curves (the all female gym) in California would be affected by whatever judgment comes out of this. Where's the ACLU when you need them. (/sacrcasm)
1 posted on 10/28/2004 9:24:20 AM PDT by Tamar1973
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To: Tamar1973

I heard they don't want men joining because they will leave the seats up...


2 posted on 10/28/2004 9:26:20 AM PDT by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: Tamar1973

What's amazing is that it took this long for this obviously illegal practice to be smacked down.


3 posted on 10/28/2004 9:27:20 AM PDT by maro (T)
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To: Tamar1973

What go around shore do indeed COME AROUND...


4 posted on 10/28/2004 9:27:44 AM PDT by JATO (The MSM is ORGANIZED CRIME. Conspiracy, fraud, blackmail, bribery. They do it ALL.)
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To: Tamar1973

Call me insensitive and bigoted, but for me, women-only gyms are lesbo-erotic hotspots...


5 posted on 10/28/2004 9:28:50 AM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: Tamar1973

This is what they get for barging in where they weren't wanted.


6 posted on 10/28/2004 9:29:37 AM PDT by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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To: Tamar1973
21st Century update of an old maxim: "What's good for the gander is good for the goose."

I absolutely love this lawsuit. Next we can go after the all black student organizations at our colleges.

7 posted on 10/28/2004 9:30:53 AM PDT by FormerACLUmember (Free Republic is 21st Century Samizdat)
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To: Tamar1973
When I was in college I happened to be in the gym while a girls aerobics class was going on.

After a few minutes of stunned silence I literally had to leave. It is truly astounding how many beautiful girls there are in many colleges.

There is no way I could have attended a class like that.

8 posted on 10/28/2004 9:31:03 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: Tamar1973
So THIS mentality is Okay...

All-female fitness clubs are popular with women who don't want to be ogled by men while they're exercising, supporters said. They say there are plenty of co-ed clubs for men.

But THIS mentality is not...

All-white fitness clubs are popular with whites who don't want to be ogled by non-whites while they're exercising, supporters said. They say there are plenty of minority clubs for minorities.

Welcome to Loony Liberal Logic 101.

9 posted on 10/28/2004 9:31:15 AM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: Tamar1973

I demand equal right to the women's locker room!


10 posted on 10/28/2004 9:32:13 AM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Tamar1973

Ha ha! This is so funny! The girls are working out so the guys will look at them, so whats the big deal?


11 posted on 10/28/2004 9:32:18 AM PDT by refermech
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To: Tamar1973
Ha ha ha ha ha!!!

I simply cannot WAIT to e-mail this to my wife and to a female colleague and friend.
I've been trying to tell them this was coming for the longest time.

12 posted on 10/28/2004 9:32:58 AM PDT by Constitution Day (I don't know where the sunbeams end and the starlights begin, it's all a mystery...)
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"I heard they don't want men joining because they will leave the seats up..."

We pee in the shower too.

13 posted on 10/28/2004 9:33:46 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Kerry hunting is like Bush going to a gay disco just to prove he's not homophobic (thanks QLA))
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To: CzarNicky

"This is what they get for barging in where they weren't wanted."

EXACTLY! I have no problem whatsoever with women having their own organizations, but so many of them think the pendulum swings only one way. I attribute that to the pack of feminazis out there who really want to BE men.


14 posted on 10/28/2004 9:34:44 AM PDT by AggieCPA (Howdy, Ags!)
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To: Tamar1973
Men and women should have the right to have clubs for their own gender. This lawsuit was indeed inevitable and long overdue. Let us hope that it will finally expose for all to see the insanity of the left and what they have been doing to our society.

I am waiting for someone in college to join the women's tennis team or women's softball team or women's track team. Why can't men join sororities?

Those on the left have sued to stop free ladies night at a bar. The practice encourages male customers and guess what --- it is good for business. We must get back control of our judiciary.

15 posted on 10/28/2004 9:35:08 AM PDT by doug from upland (Michael Moore = a culinary Pinocchio ---- tell a lie, gain a pound.)
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To: El Conservador

Good I'll join just to piss them off. I can see all those butches upset cause I can press 350# and they cant.


16 posted on 10/28/2004 9:35:35 AM PDT by sasafras (sasafras (The road to hell is paved with good intentions))
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To: El Conservador

You are just making a rather broad generalization. I belong to a women-only gym, and haven't seen any lesbo-erotic behavior..and I'm a hottie, so I would have been hit on for sure!

The thing I like best about a women-only gym is there are no sweaty grunting muscle boys pumping iron.


17 posted on 10/28/2004 9:36:20 AM PDT by Laura Earl (No man is an island, but some are peninsulas.)
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To: Tamar1973

"He said the manager told him that men can use the club only one day a week. Another club representative said women can use the facilities at any time, Kottle complained.

He said he also was told that monthly fees are the same for men and women. "

Looks like an open and shut case ...


18 posted on 10/28/2004 9:36:31 AM PDT by WildTurkey
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To: Laura Earl

When women work out they don't sweat and grunt?
They aren't working out hard enough! Hottie? Any pics?


19 posted on 10/28/2004 9:40:18 AM PDT by refermech
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To: El Conservador
Call me insensitive and bigoted, but for me, women-only gyms are lesbo-erotic hotspots.

You are thinking like a man. Women think and react differently. Women, who really want to exercise, feel uncomfortable with men around watching them sweat and grunt. For women, the co-ed places are often just joints were the members stand around and flirt in tight, skimpy outfits. A female only gym allows women to get exercise without feeling that men are judging their bodies.
20 posted on 10/28/2004 9:41:38 AM PDT by redheadtoo
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