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John Zogby changes mind. Now says Bush will win (Novak)
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Posted on 10/28/2004 6:28:25 AM PDT by slowhand520

Welcome back on the bandwagon!

Kerry unable to crack Bush base

October 28, 2004

BY ROBERT NOVAK SUN-TIMES COLUMNIST Advertisement

Pollster John Zogby surprised the political world back in April with a long-range prediction that John Kerry would defeat George W. Bush for president. On Monday this week, Zogby told me, he changed his mind. He now thinks the president is more likely to be re-elected because he has reinforced support from his base, including married white women.

That conclusion would be a surprise for frantically nervous Republicans and cautiously upbeat Democrats entering the campaign's final days. In fact, nobody, including Zogby and all the other polltakers, can be sure who will win this election. Yet, it is clear that President Bush's strategists have succeeded in solidifying his base to a degree that makes it much harder to defeat him next Tuesday.

The long, tortuous presidential contest has come down to who the ''security mom'' thinks can best protect her family against terrorism. Based on current polling data, Bush has won that argument in the face of Kerry's relentless attacks. That explains why the Democrat this week was not talking about health care or other standby issues of his party, but was trying to pierce Bush's security shield by harping on the disappearance of munitions in Iraq.

The difficulty that Kerry now encounters has been shrouded by misleading overnight tracking from last weekend, showing a Democratic surge that is common in Friday-through-Sunday polling. Otherwise, Kerry is in trouble. When Zogby had second thoughts Monday, he found Bush with a national lead of three percentage points and an undecided vote of only 2.7 percent.

The data shows the undecided voters in Bush's base are resolving their misgivings about the president. Zogby's subgroups in the Republican base -- such as investors, military and married couples -- are returning to Bush.

Zogby shows Kerry's advantage among women is only 3 percentage points, the same margin reflected in nightly tracking by Republican pollster Ed Goeas. The Goeas poll shows a 13-percentage-point Bush advantage among men. Goeas' poll has white men favoring Bush over Kerry, 58 percent to 35 percent. Remarkably, the count among white married women is not far behind: 53 percent for Bush, 42 percent for Kerry. The problem for the Democrats is Bush's continued large lead over Kerry concerning which candidate voters prefer to fight terrorism.

If these numbers hold up, the campaign strategy of Bush political adviser Karl Rove will be vindicated. While Kerry's strategy seems to have a thousand fathers, no presidential campaign in my experience has been so completely in the hands of one man as Bush's. Amid much private criticism in GOP ranks, Rove has concentrated on mobilizing the base behind Bush as the anti-terror candidate rather than making conventional overtures to undecided centrists.

With his base secure this week, the Bush strategy did turn to Democratic voters -- not with the usual leftward turn but appealing to hard-liners who have trouble accepting Kerry leading the war against terror. Campaigning in Wisconsin Tuesday, Bush invoked the memory of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy for their ''resolve in times of war and in hours of crisis'' -- drawing an unfavorable comparison with Kerry. Bush is after the security moms, Republican or Democrat.

On the same day, the Kerry campaign threw out previous plans and made the candidate's centerpiece a New York Times report of 380 tons of explosives found missing from Iraq. Although NBC embedded reporters said the explosives were gone when U.S. troops arrived in March 2003, Kerry insisted for two days that this was another example of Bush's inadequacy in waging the war on terror. Whether such a complex issue appeals to security moms is another matter.

A lot can happen in the next few days. In 2000, Zogby had Bush 3percentage points ahead at this stage, but Al Gore seized the lead because of the attack on Social Security privatization and the revelation of Bush's drunken-driving case.

Kerry needs what he has been unable to accomplish so far: a direct hit on Bush's anti-terrorism credentials. It is hard to imagine a Democratic victory without removing those security moms from under Bush's anti-terrorism banner.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gwb2004; novak; polls; predictions; zogby
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To: blteague

MSM using the polls to encourage the down ticket. congress and the senate races will go to the repubs if the dems don't turn out.


41 posted on 10/28/2004 7:03:24 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: slowhand520

BUMP!


42 posted on 10/28/2004 7:04:00 AM PDT by jmstein7 (A Judge not bound by the original meaning of the Constitution interprets nothing but his own mind.)
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To: finnman69

But but but I heard a dem TV moroon saying that Dubya lost the white male vote in Ohio to Kerry when Kerry went goose hunting.


43 posted on 10/28/2004 7:04:43 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: over3Owithabrain
FNC has been trolling for CNN viewers and for the most part has been successful.

Soon MSLSD will be off the air and FNC will have those viewers as well.

Conservatives will have no home on the TV cable stations.

44 posted on 10/28/2004 7:06:07 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: jalisco555
I guess I'm going to have to go with MSNBC :holds nose: At least they represented both sides during the Presidential debates. FoxNews flat out scared me until the final debate. Did I hear correctly that Laura Inghram is suppose to be on MSNBC on election night? If so, that would be great.
45 posted on 10/28/2004 7:06:49 AM PDT by CatOwner
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To: Petronski

ausgezeichnet.


46 posted on 10/28/2004 7:15:28 AM PDT by Siobhan (Pray without ceasing.)
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To: OldFriend

HAHAHAHAHA!!! LOST IT AFTER LURCH PLAYED ELMER FUDD?!!!HAHAHAHAHHAAHAHA


47 posted on 10/28/2004 7:39:39 AM PDT by ALWAYSWELDING
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To: slowhand520

Zogby stops shilling in order to protect his rep for after the election and still be employable.

Bush will win, and win by no less than 3 to 4% of the popular vote. (Most likely much much more than this).


48 posted on 10/28/2004 7:41:42 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: CaptainK

"In order to maintain an iota of credibility, Zogby must now admit what he has known for months."

That is the complete truth about Zogby.


49 posted on 10/28/2004 7:44:19 AM PDT by Preachin' (Kerry/Rather 2004)
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To: ALWAYSWELDING

It was either Gregory or Shuster who made that comment last night. That Kerry picked up Bush's white male voters after the goose hunting.


50 posted on 10/28/2004 7:47:26 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: michaelt

I don't care what all the pundits say. This elections IS NOT EVEN CLOSE. I think it will be an easy Bush win both in terms of popular and electoral votes. Think about it: the only reason that any of us believe that this is a close election is because the mainstream media tells us so. Why should we believe them? They were wrong in '84, and they're lying now. Don't believe the hype.


51 posted on 10/28/2004 7:48:18 AM PDT by MarcoPolo
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To: Josh in PA

Thanks for telling me that...I can't wait until November 3rd.


52 posted on 10/28/2004 7:51:37 AM PDT by najida (Life is too short to live without chocolate, cute shoes and naps.)
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To: OldFriend

Noop. . any real white male hunter knows you hold your
birds by the feet instead of the neck. It looked so
PUTZY!


53 posted on 10/28/2004 8:00:52 AM PDT by Twinkie
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To: slowhand520
he has reinforced support from his base, including married white women.

Well, white men are now not alone. The media and liberal will start trashing white married women. They will now be made to look stupid and bigoted. You heard it here first folks!

54 posted on 10/28/2004 8:03:43 AM PDT by feedback doctor (Fundamentalist Liberals, Fundamentalist Muslims, the only difference is the clothes)
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To: slowhand520
Kerry needs what he has been unable to accomplish so far: a direct hit on Bush's anti-terrorism credentials.

That sounds like something someone could regret saying.

55 posted on 10/28/2004 8:05:27 AM PDT by js1138 (D*mn, I Missed!)
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To: Twinkie

Wouldn't expect Gregory or Shuster to know anything about hunting.


56 posted on 10/28/2004 8:10:37 AM PDT by OldFriend (It's the soldier, not the reporter who has given US freedom of the press)
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To: slowhand520

No S--t. The faithful always knew.


57 posted on 10/28/2004 8:18:04 AM PDT by iheartusa
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To: Brilliant

It doesn't matter because it was pretty obvious from day one that the President would win AGAIN. Kerry is such a wishy-washy lying dirtbag who changed strategists as much as he changed his mind. Too many cooks in the kitchen and too many kooks in his campaign. What else did they expect? Now, I only hope this news does not discourage the faithful from the polls. I personally predict a landslide.


58 posted on 10/28/2004 8:22:29 AM PDT by iheartusa
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To: slowhand520

Dad always told me "A fool never changes his mind, a wise man does often"

Of course he always told me this just after he changed his mind.


59 posted on 10/28/2004 10:18:01 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: MarcoPolo

You're preaching to the choir, dude.


60 posted on 10/28/2004 11:13:57 AM PDT by iheartusa
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