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George W's Women
Townhall ^ | October 28 2004 | Robert Novak

Posted on 10/27/2004 9:39:51 PM PDT by anonposter

WASHINGTON -- Pollster John Zogby surprised the political world back in April with a long-range prediction that John Kerry would defeat George W. Bush for president. On Monday this week, Zogby told me, he changed his mind. He now thinks the president is more likely to be re-elected because he has reinforced support from his base, including married white women.

That conclusion would be a surprise for frantically nervous Republicans and cautiously upbeat Democrats entering the campaign's final days. In fact, nobody, including Zogby and all the other polltakers, can be sure who will win this election. Yet, it is clear that President Bush's strategists have succeeded in solidifying his base to a degree that makes it much harder to defeat him next Tuesday.

The long, tortuous presidential contest has come down to who the "security mom" thinks can best protect her family against terrorism. Based on current polling data, Bush has won that argument in the face of Sen. Kerry's relentless attacks. That explains why the Democratic nominee this week was not talking about health care or other standby issues of his party, but was trying to pierce Bush's security shield by harping on the disappearance of munitions in Iraq.

The difficulty that Kerry now encounters has been shrouded by misleading overnight tracking from last weekend, showing a Democratic surge that is common in Friday-through-Sunday polling. Otherwise, Kerry is in trouble. When Zogby had second thoughts Monday, he found Bush with a national lead of three percentage points and an undecided vote of only 2.7 percent.

The data shows the undecided voters in Bush's base are resolving their misgivings about the president. Zogby's subgroups in the Republican base -- such as investors, military and married couples -- are returning to Bush.

Zogby shows Kerry's advantage among women is only three percentage points, exactly the same margin reflected in the nightly tracking by Republican pollster Ed Goeas. The Goeas poll shows a 13-percentage point Bush advantage among men. Goeas's poll has white men favoring Bush over Kerry, 58 percent to 35 percent. Remarkably, the count among white married women is not far behind: 53 percent for Bush, 42 percent for Kerry. The problem for the Democrats is Bush's continued large lead over Kerry concerning which candidate voters prefer to fight terrorism.

If these numbers hold up, the campaign strategy of Bush political adviser Karl Rove will be vindicated. While Kerry's strategy seems to have a thousand fathers, no presidential campaign in my experience has been so completely in the hands of one man as Bush's. Amid much private criticism in GOP ranks, Rove has concentrated on mobilizing the base behind Bush as the anti-terror candidate rather than making conventional overtures to undecided centrists.

With his base secure this week, the Bush strategy did turn to Democratic voters -- not with the usual leftward turn but appealing to hard-liners who have trouble accepting Kerry leading the war against terror. Campaigning in Wisconsin Tuesday, Bush invoked the memory of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman and John F. Kennedy for their "resolve in times of war and in hours of crisis" -- drawing an unfavorable comparison with Kerry. Bush is after the security moms, Republican or Democrat.

On the same day, the Kerry campaign threw out previous plans and made the candidate's centerpiece a New York Times report of 380 tons of explosives found missing from Iraq. Although NBC embedded reporters said the explosives were gone when U.S. troops arrived in March 2003, Kerry insisted for two days that this was another example of Bush's inadequacy in waging the war on terror. Whether such a complex issue appeals to security moms is another matter.

A lot can happen in the next few days. In 2000, Zogby had Bush three percentage points ahead at this stage, but Al Gore seized the lead because of the attack on Social Security privatization and the revelation of Bush's drunk driving case.

Kerry needs what he has been unable to accomplish so far: a direct hit on Bush's anti-terrorism credentials. It is hard to imagine a Democratic victory without removing those security moms from under Bush's anti-terrorism banner.


TOPICS: Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: gwb2004; novak; polls; securitymoms; womensvote; zogby
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On Monday this week, Zogby told me, he changed his mind. He now thinks the president is more likely to be re-elected because he has reinforced support from his base, including married white women.

Oh, I don't think that is why John Zogby changed his mind. I believe he is very biased and have seen him speak on C-Span and does not seem to like George Bush in the least. But, his firm tabulates the 'Weekly Reader Presidential Poll' where on MONDAY (same day he quoted Bush would win) President Bush was announced the winner by school children around the country by a landslide. Weekly Reader has not been wrong since 1956. Follow the link and it shows he tabulates for Weekly Reader.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1256221/posts

41 posted on 10/27/2004 10:30:26 PM PDT by glory2
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To: Sola Veritas
[ I think there are men that post here that would kill someone if Ann Coulter asked them; and not because they admire her brain. ]

LoL....
I know I'd at least consider it.. since she's 100 percent correct, 100 percent of the time..

42 posted on 10/27/2004 10:34:46 PM PDT by hosepipe (This Propaganda has been edited to include not a small amount of Hyperbole..)
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To: Sola Veritas
There were many who said that once women got the vote, war would be a thing of the past because women were more pacifistic. Now that women are voting I hope that people realize that nothing has changed.
43 posted on 10/27/2004 10:37:38 PM PDT by spinestein (Nov 2nd. Don't forget to flush the Johns)
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To: Sola Veritas

The problem with female voters is not that they vote from the neck down, which most of them do, but possibly in no greater proportion than the males.

It is that in voting viscerally, they make their choices out of fear, and desire for protection and shelter, where males do not. Hence they unwittingly become the foundation of socialism and the nanny state.


44 posted on 10/27/2004 11:01:18 PM PDT by fire_eye (Socialism is the opiate of academia.)
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To: Finalapproach29er

You believe you're right- I suppose that's all that matters. In the end neither men nor woman own the market on stupid reasons to decide on things. Do I think George Bush is a good looking man? As a twenty-six year old woman, yes I do. I also think he is very real looking and yes, that realNESS factors into my decision but it's only a minor part of the overall equation. Men are certainly NOT better decision makers and really God help us all if ONLY men were allowed to vote.


45 posted on 10/27/2004 11:12:53 PM PDT by shawngf
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To: shawngf

You understand Hillary is going to be elected 4 years from now, and its going to be women who are responsible for putting her in office.

At that time,you'll hear a lot worse on this site than that which I posted.



46 posted on 10/28/2004 12:05:10 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: Finalapproach29er

Not all woman are complete twits with no brains...the media would just have you believe such and so would NOW and all those other moron so-called Women's Rights Orgs that have done more to opress women than anyone else ever could. I don't believe that most sensible women are all that enamored of Hillary either but you'll never hear the media admit that...she's still a far left socialist psycho Dem...as for this site becoming a woman bashing zone..that would be too bad as there are likely many many women here such as myself that would be terribly upset by that.


47 posted on 10/28/2004 12:09:58 AM PDT by shawngf
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To: Finalapproach29er

Oh lighten up sir. His looks have no influence on me on why I'm voting for him. It's just fun pointing it out.


48 posted on 10/28/2004 12:18:56 AM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: shawngf

I don't consider it bashing, and never said ALL women were shallow.

Not trying to start a fight, I just don't understand those who would select a politician based on anything other than politics.

Yes,idiots of both sexes will decide this election; but Kerry and the Mommy party are going to win the female vote even though an American city may disappear in a matter of years. I find that incredible and terrifying.


49 posted on 10/28/2004 12:25:45 AM PDT by Finalapproach29er ({about the news media} "We'll tell you any sh** you want hear" : Howard Beale --> NETWORK)
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To: diamond6; Lady Jag


http://pro.lookingat.us/TexasRancher.html







50 posted on 10/28/2004 3:14:13 AM PDT by devolve ( -HEINZ-KERRY - LIFESTYLES Of The RICH & FLAMING! - http://pro.lookingat.us/ThisOldDump.html --)
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To: diamond6

I would hope you vote for better reasons.


51 posted on 10/28/2004 3:15:40 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I wear sleepwear therefore I think (When they are off I am single minded))
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To: Finalapproach29er

I'm 56 and it's one of my life goals to be shallow and superficial. I think that the effete intellectual lefties are the bane of this country. All I really need to know is, my redeemer lives. After that, the rest is simple.


52 posted on 10/28/2004 6:45:11 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: bmwcyle

Of course I am, good grief. Whats wrong with you people!
He's pro life, so am I; he believes in preemptive action against terrorists, so do I, he believes in tax cuts, so do I, etc.

Are you happy now?


53 posted on 10/28/2004 7:01:24 AM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6

Ok just checking.


54 posted on 10/28/2004 7:02:28 AM PDT by bmwcyle (I wear sleepwear therefore I think (When they are off I am single minded))
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To: Finalapproach29er
You understand Hillary is going to be elected 4 years from now, and its going to be women who are responsible for putting her in office.

You're delusional. Mrs clinton is the most hated woman in the US. I predict she'll lose her senate relection bid and be out of the running before the primaries start in 08.

Remember that the power of the old media is broken and that the truth will get out. Her allies at the alphabets or the clinton news network can't protect her any more

"The truth getting out" and "a successful clinton in politics" are mutually exclusive

55 posted on 10/28/2004 8:44:35 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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