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Kristol: N.Y. Times and CBS 'Conspiring' With Kerry to Defeat Bush
NewsMax.com ^ | 10/27/04 | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 10/27/2004 6:37:14 AM PDT by kattracks

What a treat on "Fox & Friends" this morning: William Kristol hammered the pro-Democrat New York Times and pro-Democrat CBS for "colluding" and "conspiring" with Sen. John Kerry to topple President Bush.

Even Kerry's own handlers now admit they have no proof to back up the issue the Democrats concocted with their media allies.

Kristol notes in his new column for Weekly Standard: "Pressed on Tuesday afternoon about the accuracy of the allegations on Fox's Big Story with John Gibson, Richard Holbrooke, a senior adviser to the Kerry campaign, said: 'You don't know the truth and I don't know the truth.' He later underscored this point: 'I don't know the truth.'

"That minor issue hasn't kept the Kerry campaign from creating a television ad based on what may well be untruthful claims. ... Shouldn't he at least make sure that such a charge is true?"

But in the Democrat playbook there's no entry for truth. The party's longtime strategy is to repeat a lie until people believe it. Thanks to their media collaborators, and President Bush's wimpy refusal to denounce the Times and "60 Minutes" and Kerry and John Edwards, the stunt could succeed.

At least a few voices are speaking out. "Kerry gins up his attack machine based on a flawed New York Times story," the Republican National Committee noted Tuesday.

Richard Lessner, executive director of American Conservative Union, blasted the story "a cheap, baseless and partisan hit-job on President Bush" and pointed out that "neither the Times nor CBS has much interest in reporting the facts."



TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ammogate; cbsnews; collusion; kerry; kristol; mediashillsforkerry; nyt; partisanmedia
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To: beckysueb

That would be tough to do unless they found a stockpile of WMDs. Those items may have been sent to Syria or dumped in the Desert. The information about WMD programs in Iraq is extensive, but to satisfy, only a stockpile would do.


81 posted on 10/27/2004 7:39:02 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Genoa
Agree...

The RDX disappeared under some unknown set of circumstances (Holbrook: "I don't know") but it will not be used by Saddam to trigger his atomic warheads...
82 posted on 10/27/2004 7:42:04 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: Fatalis

The role of the U.N. in pushing this lie of a story to the New York Times is something I wish were getting more focus. The U.N. leadership, from Kofi Anon on down, desperately want this Oil-For-Food investigation to go away so that they're not shown for the vile, corrupt little men they are. They know Kerry will put a stop to it, so they will interfere in our national politics in whatever way possible to get rid of George Bush. Isn't this a violation of our sovereignty?


83 posted on 10/27/2004 7:43:34 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: NaughtiusMaximus
You're right!

Itis OLD MEDIA.

84 posted on 10/27/2004 7:43:46 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: Anti-Bubba182

But yet Kerry is insinuating these missing weapons constitutes a stockpile. Too many people are politically ignorant and don't know the MSM is biased. I wish I had a dollar for everytime I've had to tell people they have been listening to the media and that the media is feeding them hogwash. They just spew the same garbage they hear on TV. I tell them if they want the truth, listen to Rush Limbaugh or Shawn Hannity and they say oh that Limbaugh is a big blowhart. Then I ask them if they have ever listened to him and they say no. So there it is.


85 posted on 10/27/2004 7:45:17 AM PDT by beckysueb (REMEMBER: You better hope we don't win!)
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To: kattracks

He should have added Tom Kean and the Gannett Press to the list. Check out the headlines in today's Daily Record Newspaper.


86 posted on 10/27/2004 7:45:30 AM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: jimfrommaine

Cheney got it right this morning, publicly labeled John Kerry -- within the last two hours -- as a carping complainer who is trashing our troops.

Next, we'll up the rhetoric that Kerry's trashing of our troops represents a lifetime pattern of behavior.

Within 48 hours, the Kerry people will regret ever going down this pathway.


87 posted on 10/27/2004 7:47:53 AM PDT by mwl1
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To: jimfrommaine

I called yesterday too Jim....someone on here posted the number.. my first time...
I asked that someone please come out and speak LIVE on TV about the Lies Kerry ,CBS and the NYTimes are spreading..I asked someone to please talk LIVE about Kerry NOT voting for the Kuwait invasion since it shows how he would do militarily AND asked for some help on this border mess since all of W's supporters get KILLED on this issue, trying to support him.....
Ive posted at every site I know where to post supporting Pres Bush and then calling Kerry and Company liars... I've written probably 300 emails since this broke to every news station I know too.....
Im worn out and overwhelmed.....the rest is up to our President and his folks....I surrender as I've said


88 posted on 10/27/2004 7:49:58 AM PDT by ArmyBratCutie ("Four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:soap, ballot, jury, ammo in this order!")
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To: philsfan24

I have a buddy that only has ABC via antenna, and he visited me yesterday. He knew the story was total BS, and he also knew that they were missing before the invasion. He is not political.

LLS


89 posted on 10/27/2004 7:50:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (kerry SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Mr. K

I didn't know cBS had credibility?

It must be one of those buy 1 credibility get 9 credibility for free. $1 Credibility general store.


90 posted on 10/27/2004 7:55:16 AM PDT by ideablitz
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To: Mr. K
Wasn't it Joseph Goebbels who drafted the Nazi campaign blaming the Jews for Germany's failure to rise out of the ashes of the Great War who remarked, "If you tell a lie often enough, it eventually becomes accepted as the truth?" I'd like to believe that today's pop culture will be able to see through this lie, but I'm concerned about the affect of oft repeating it in the waning days of this presidential campaign. It would then have the net effect of a de facto "October Surprise" anyway. /doom and gloom>
91 posted on 10/27/2004 8:00:59 AM PDT by Tread (Time to "flush the Johns"!)
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To: Fatalis
"Duelfer also said U.N. weapons inspectors recommended in 1995 that the high explosives be destroyed because of their potential use in a nuclear weapons program.

The International Atomic Energy Agency instead ordered the explosives stored in sealed bunkers 30 miles south of the Iraqi capital. The last time the IAEA verified that the bunkers were still sealed was in March of last year, about a month before the first U.S. troops moved into the complex as they pushed toward Baghdad.

The last inspection was on March 8, 2003. The Blixie Boys reported that a large amount of this explosive had already been removed. Saddam's explanation was that it was being used for "quarrying and mining." No evidence was offered to demonstrate this assertion, in contravention of 1441.

92 posted on 10/27/2004 8:08:17 AM PDT by cookcounty (Kerry launched his career by trashing the VN Vets. He ends by trashing the NG. Such class.)
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To: philsfan24
the bush campaign needs to come out NOW and refute the ny times and cbs.

The Bush campaign has been refuting it since Monday night.

93 posted on 10/27/2004 8:13:49 AM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: DarthVader; shezza

Done! Thanks for the verse. It's perfect!!

Ping Shezz


94 posted on 10/27/2004 8:14:14 AM PDT by N8VTXNinWV
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To: N8VTXNinWV

Thanks, Louie. Printed it out and taped it to the computer monitor.


95 posted on 10/27/2004 8:17:26 AM PDT by shezza
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To: beckysueb
The silence from thee WH is deafening.

The "WH" has been responding. President Bush has not directly addressed it.

96 posted on 10/27/2004 8:22:58 AM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Josh in PA

Excellent! Thanks for taking the time to let me know!

LLS


98 posted on 10/27/2004 8:29:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (kerry SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: beckysueb

Fox just played part of President Bush LIVE in Pennsylvania. I missed the part that Bridget Quinn just recounted that he personally said to the crowd (I would love to hear it myself and/or see the transcript):

According to Fox, Bush said it appears the explosives were missing by the time our troops arrived and *anyone who jumps to conclusions and starts slamming the U.S. is not fit to be commander-in-chief*.

Well, I have to say, I am pleased. I wish I'd heard it myself, but by the time I walked in he was saying that bin Laden had been reported in several different locations and not just Tora Bora (addressing the Kerry accusation about that issue).


99 posted on 10/27/2004 8:31:01 AM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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To: Tenacious0

He's addressing it.


100 posted on 10/27/2004 8:32:29 AM PDT by cyncooper (And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm)
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