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Inside Politics: Priests vs. Kerry
The Washington Times ^ | 10/26/04 | Greg Pierce

Posted on 10/26/2004 6:15:14 AM PDT by Pfesser

"The Christian faith has been misrepresented again today by John Kerry," the Rev. Frank Pavone, national director of Priests for Life, said in response to a speech that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry gave Sunday in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

"Kerry said, on the one hand, that he disagrees with the Church on abortion, and yet that society must protect its most vulnerable members.

"That's exactly why the Church is against abortion and requires Kerry — and every public official — to extend protection to the most vulnerable, the children in the womb. Mr. Kerry obviously does not understand the Church he claims to belong to. The Church's position on abortion is not based on religious doctrine. It is based on the very duty to society that Mr. Kerry claims to fulfill," Father Pavone said.

"Mr. Kerry says he will not impose matters of belief by law. We do not want him to. We simply want him to protect human life, including the unborn, despite the beliefs of those who devalue them — just as the law protects any one of us despite the beliefs of those who might devalue us."

Priests for Life has had more than a thousand priests sign a pledge to preach on abortion as the central issue in this year's election.

(Excerpt) Read more at washtimes.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: abortion
Additional, it states:
"The election is still a week off, but the Bush camp is making strong predictions about the final outcome," Paul Bedard writes in the Washington Whispers column of U.S. News & World Report. "Insiders tell us that the Bush-Cheney polling team believes the president will win re-election 50 percent to 47 percent."
1 posted on 10/26/2004 6:15:15 AM PDT by Pfesser
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To: Pfesser
Rootin' tootin' John Kerry rides out of his polo stables
~shotgun blazing~
to make certain that we recognize that
all the unborn are "fair game."

2 posted on 10/26/2004 6:25:30 AM PDT by syriacus (I'm commanded to LOVE appeaseniks, but I don't have to VOTE for one as Commander-in-Chief)
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To: syriacus

Yes, but, according to John-John Edwards, If Kerry is elected, he will be able to raise the dead. Looks like he already has, since he needs the dead vote.


3 posted on 10/26/2004 6:38:13 AM PDT by Pfesser (I was for Kerry before I was against him. LOL.)
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To: Pfesser

Well, I'm here at U. of Dayton, a Catholic (Marianist) school and have a pro-Bush brother in one of my classes, who tells me that the brothers are overwhelmingly liberal whackos, and that they banned him from putting up a Bush sign in his window. We are seeing the "gaying and greying" of the Catholic Church.


4 posted on 10/26/2004 6:38:33 AM PDT by LS
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To: Pfesser

I've been predicting since May Bush will get 56% of the vote & Kerry will get 46. What we have to beware of is the "Lazurus factor" in which the dead arise and are escorted to the nearest polling place. (my totals have factored in the stiffs and the probable overwhelming vote for Kerry from mental institutions, thus the 46%)


5 posted on 10/26/2004 7:16:51 AM PDT by Larry381 (The Democratic Party-Celebrating 60 years of aid and comfort to America's enemies)
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To: Pfesser

The message is becomming quite clear: If you are a Catholic don't run for public office unless you are willing to accept the potential political liability of being pro-choice.


7 posted on 10/26/2004 7:22:12 AM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not event driven, not fact driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: bayourod

pro-life, not pro-choice stupid!


8 posted on 10/26/2004 7:22:55 AM PDT by bayourod (Old Media news is poll driven, not event driven, not fact driven, not newsworthy driven.)
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To: Pfesser
This is a compelling arguement by the FR. posted before and a reminder that Kerry can't have it both ways.

Why Being Pro-Abortion Will Make You Wrong On Other Issues Priests For Life ^ | Oct. 10, 2004 | Father Frank Pavone

Can't Be Right --

An honest look at what an abortion is, and at how many victims it claims, is enough to reveal that nothing outweighs its gravity among the many "life issues." Multiple Church documents have confirmed this insight, repeating over and over that the abortion tragedy demands urgent attention and priority.

While some have tried, shamelessly, to obscure and contradict this teaching, many are quite able to understand and accept it. Yet the truth is even deeper than the statement, "Being wrong on abortion outweighs being right on other issues."

The full truth is, if you are wrong on abortion, you can't be right on other issues.

To permit abortion, but then to cry out for the right to work, housing, education, health care, and so forth, is to say that these other rights belong to some people but not to all. They obviously do not belong to those who were snuffed out by abortion.

Therefore, these rights cannot be human rights, because you have already said that not all humans have a claim on them. This trivializes those other rights and puts them on an obscure and questionable foundation.

If you permit abortion, then, on what basis do you defend the other rights? Why do we care for the poor? Because they have a right to food, clothing, and shelter. But why do they have a right to those things? Because they have a right to live. Why are we concerned about unemployment? Because people have a right to make a living. Why do they have that right? Because they have a right to live. It all comes back to that foundational right. Abortion is not the only issue, but neither is the foundation of a house the only part of a house. Take it away, however, and see how well you can build the rest.

The reason that being wrong on abortion makes it impossible to be right on other issues is that the heart and soul of every "issue" is precisely the dignity of the human person, whose right to life is not under the dominion of any other person. A person's dignity comes from the fact that he or she is human, not that someone else decides to grant that right at some point in time. Any human right begins when human life begins; otherwise, it isn't a human right, but rather some kind of benefit bestowed for another reason.

Now if you can take the right to life away from some humans, as abortion does to the children in the womb, then obviously you can take away from those same humans all their other human rights, because none of those other rights made such a claim upon your respect that you had to let those people live to possess it.

This is why the Pope has said that when the right to life is not protected, cries for other human rights are "false and illusory." When one is wrong on abortion, one cannot be right on anything else.

9 posted on 10/26/2004 7:32:40 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Pfesser
We simply want him to protect human life, including the unborn, despite the beliefs of those who devalue them — just as the law protects any one of us despite the beliefs of those who might devalue us."

It's really not all that complicated.

10 posted on 10/26/2004 8:06:09 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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We at catholicsagainstkerry.com have stood shoulder to shoulder with the whole Pro Life movement.
We have carried the fight at every turn . Now we need one bit of help from you Freepers.
We are still 19,000 hit short of our goal of 100,000.
Please help us. Send a message to everyone you know telling them about the site and asking them to do the same.
No one has won the Catholic vote and lost the election since 1972. If Catholics vote for W we all win. Catholic or not if you share our values, hit our site.
catholicsagainstkerry.com
Thank you


11 posted on 10/26/2004 8:44:23 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: Aquinasfan

We at catholicsagainstkerry.com have stood shoulder to shoulder with the whole Pro Life movement.
We have carried the fight at every turn . Now we need one bit of help from you Freepers.
We are still 19,000 hit short of our goal of 100,000.
Please help us. Send a message to everyone you know telling them about the site and asking them to do the same.
No one has won the Catholic vote and lost the election since 1972. If Catholics vote for W we all win. Catholic or not if you share our values, hit our site.
catholicsagainstkerry.com
Thank you


12 posted on 10/26/2004 9:00:02 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 ( Kerry's not "one of us": catholicsagainstkerry.com. needs your help.)
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To: LS
who tells me that the brothers are overwhelmingly liberal whackos, and that they banned him from putting up a Bush sign in his window.

Sadly, there are about 10 truly Catholic colleges in the country. It's amazing how quickly Catholic higher education was corrupted.

13 posted on 10/26/2004 10:07:21 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: yoe

Excellent.


14 posted on 10/26/2004 10:09:17 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: LS
Well, I'm here at U. of Dayton, a Catholic (Marianist) school and have a pro-Bush brother in one of my classes, who tells me that the brothers are overwhelmingly liberal whackos, and that they banned him from putting up a Bush sign in his window. We are seeing the "gaying and greying" of the Catholic Church.

That's a shame. I too believe, that the liberals in the Catholic Church have their own agenda, and that's the secret "gay agenda" of some. Our particular parish is conservative, and regularly offers prayers to protect our military, and that they prevail.

Our church bulletin ran the following column by Fr. Pavone, and I believe it is about as strong an endorsement of the President as you can get, without mentioning his name:

"The future of our nation's policies regarding abortion, cloning, stem cell research, euthanasia, marriage and family, and the freedom of the Church depend in large measure on what voters do on Election Day, Nov. 2. Therefore, numerous Catholic organizations are promoting a special Novena of Prayer, from Sun., Oct. 24 through Nov. 2nd. Please pledge your participation by visiting www.PrayeCampaign.org and indicate your willingness to pray that believers may vote and our nation may embrace a Culture of Life. - Fr. Frank Pavone, Director, Priests for Life.

15 posted on 10/26/2004 10:23:58 AM PDT by BrynS728
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To: Larry381

Really? I would have expected that between May and now you would have realized that 56% and 46% add up to more than 100%.


16 posted on 10/26/2004 10:45:19 AM PDT by Flying Circus
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To: LS

Liberalism has become an Ueber-religion.


17 posted on 10/26/2004 1:45:08 PM PDT by syriacus (I'm commanded to LOVE appeaseniks, but I don't have to VOTE for one as Commander-in-Chief)
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